Parts 1 and 2
A talk given by
Eugene Halliday, transcribed
by, and with arbitrary
headings by John Bailey.
The drawings and tables
aren’t originals, and
all editor’s notes
are in square brackets.
In many instances the remarks from the audience are indistinct.
The talk is available in two parts.
member of the audience (Y)] What I wanted to ask about was the way in
which you assimilate food ... you said it was similar, you assimilate
out of the food what was similar to yourself. And I was thinking
about the way in which you tend to group with similar people. And I
wondered if there was a link there, kind of .... in this constant
gathering of similars...
Yes. Well can you
see logically why only like substances can assimilate? You know for
instance, if you take the organic compounds, you’re really
dealing with nitrogen compounds aren’t you? You must have
something that is in some way similar to many things if you wish to
bind a lot of things together.
[Y] Is that’s
why it’s a catalyst, again?
Consciousness As a Catalyst
Similar, except that
in the catalyst you have a substance that doesn’t itself take
part in the reaction ... it’s just its presence that determines
it. Like we said before, that consciousness is a catalyst. If you see
a child playing, and it doesn’t know that you have noticed it,
and you keep looking at it, very soon the child alters the character
of the play. It’s aware that it’s under observation, and
the fact that it is being watched changes the character of the
And the same thing
happens with any human being ... the moment he becomes conscious of
what he is doing, then the action tends to change itself.
Consciousness in that sense is a catalyst, because consciousness does
not itself participate in anything whatever ... it is a just a
permanent background of all the activities. You can say, if you like,
that every thing, every percept, is inside consciousness. The
consciousness itself is not of them, but they are of it. They are
like the ripples on the sea. Ripples can fall down and leave the sea
there calm. You can imagine the sea calm without ripples, but you
can’t imagine the ripples without the sea ... which establishes
the priority of substance, doesn’t it?
as well to make a ... if we draw ourselves a wave and a body of
water, we can say that the body of water represents substance —
plastic substance — and these waves now are the basis of the
possibility of counting. If we draw another body of water here, calm,
we say that is one surface don’t we? ... because it is flat. At
the moment waves come in it we can start counting the waves ... here
are one, two, three, four and so on. This is like the tooth side of a
saw ... we call this the discrete aspect. Discrete means grown apart.
This is a discrete aspect of the phenomenal world. There is the
substantial world — whatever it might be all this stuff as we
call it in good old Saxon — this is the materia of the Latins,
the stuff substance, the xyla or wood of the Greeks. And this is the
carving of the wood or the rippling of the plastic substance
[diagram]. Here we have continuity on the bottom.
Ships may pitch and
toss, and sailors may complain up there as much as they like. Down
below, a sunken ship is in calmness, isn’t it? Now this is
very, very similar to a human mind. The ripples in the human mind are
caused by forces acting on the mind from outside, which we call
stimuli. But in the depth of the mind, the stimulus from outside
cannot produce great disturbances ... which means that fundamentally
everybody is quite ... quite calm. [04:41]
Would you like to
put that in again ... so that it works? I had another one of those
somewhere... [an aside]
this question of assimilation now, we know that unless a substance
has some factor identical with another substance, it cannot fuse with
it. Now, supposing we consider that all matter is vibrating in a
certain way, we can then if we like say: some matter has a
characteristic wave form like that, and there’s its baseline
from which it starts.
supposing we take the string of a musical instrument — which is
how Pythagoras would have done it — and we allow that string to
vibrate. Supposing we pull it down there, and then let it fly across,
it will then assume this position, and then that position [flying
from one extreme to the other], won’t it? And it will give a
beat we call the fundamental. But if we stimulate this string in
various ways, plucking it, a wave will break through the middle,
there. We can put a finger there on a violin string, and we will then
get, if that finger is halfway from there to there, we’ll get
the octave of this fundamental note. That means if that fundamental
is, say, middle C on the piano, then putting the finger halfway along
it would give you the C above it, which has double the frequency.
Which means, if we take this character, we can reproduce it here and
say that the wave length of that is half as long as that, but the
frequency is double. [06:31]
This question of
assimilation is very closely linked, because in effect it means that
if we take the universe itself as a big sphere — I’ll
take the diameter of it as the fundamental — then we can say
there is a definite vibration which, to the appropriate tympanum, to
the appropriate sensitive organ, say the divine ear, would sound the
fundamental. And then if we divide it in the middle and stop it here,
there would be an octave higher sounding there and there on both
sides, which we would call, musically, a partial. And if we stopped
at this again half here, this would be an octave higher than this
one; and half again, that would be an octave higher; half, an octave
higher still, this is going up to smaller and smaller divisions. And
we see that the wavelengths of these parts are getting shorter. So we
can then say that if we take this as the whole universe, that is the
diameter of it, and then proceed to subdivide it until we can no
longer divide it any more, we have reached the shortest wave in the
universe ... haven’t we?
So we could then
make a gamut of waves: the longest wave, the full diameter of the
universe, and the shortest wave would be something like Schrodinger’s
wavicle somewhere on the other side of the electron ... very, very
tiny wave, very short wave of very high frequency. There are many of
those per second of time. [08:05]
So supposing we say
that if we make some food — we’ll draw a circle here —
we say food is just something that can be assimilated. You see, the
difference between the word food and good is G and F
isn’t it? Now this concept ood or ad, id, means
to eat, in the root in edible. The Sanscrit ad
is also the same thing, ud. You say fud, food.
Now good means the gross matter of food. So we say we get
something — is if good for you? — you put it inside then
send it down there, break it up and if you can assimilate it, and
come out better, you call it good. But if instead of being able to
assimilate it, it starts disrupting you, you call it a poison.
So we can see that
this circle can be assimilated by this big one because it’s a
half the fundamental, so it has a natural resonance doesn’t it?
And we could say that there’s another one in here that could be
assimilated by this one. And half way there’s another one, and
there’s another one, and there’s another one ... you can
see that all these small frequencies can be absorbed by the big one,
But if we go on
cutting these down in this manner, we’ll find that some of them
will not assimilate with each other because of the relation between
odd an even counts.
When we cut that we
get two. We cut it again, four, eight, sixteen ... we haven’t
got something yet we can divide by three, have we? You see that? So
if we go on up and up and up, we find that the odd numbers will not
assimilate with the even. Now you know Pythagoras said odd numbers
are male, which means that they are active. Even numbers are
balanced, equilibrated, and therefore feminine. The number five he
said means marriage, because it contains two and three. The female
number two — first female number — the equilibration,
balance, means passivity, doesn’t it? Perfect equilibrium is
the same as passivity. And an odd number is a stimulus. There’s
an odd one in three. One itself is not odd ... that’s the whole
that we begin with. You see that?
The funny thing
about elementary arithmetic is that the behaviour of one and two are
not like the behaviour of other numbers. We say one plus one equals
two, and two times one is two. So whether you add or multiply one
you get the same result, don’t you? [10:59].
But if we take the
number 2, we say two times two are four, and two plus two are four.
You see? And that behaves like one, doesn’t it? The same result
whether you add or multiply, but when we come to number three, if you
say three plus three are six and three times three are nine. So
suddenly there’s a new emergent. And therefore there’s a
special kind of mathematics for dealing with the peculiar behaviour
of one and two. So one and two must be considered as first this big
one — The One, the Whole One — and all these are parts.
Now the word part itself is a rational cut, a pi-ra-t, and
that pi-ratio is the function. You see here’s the radius and
this is a par-t, a part. The par-t — the parrot bird — is
so-called because it says things par-rote. Rationally rotating, then
whatever you feed in ... it plays back.
If we keep cutting
this two and two, we will always find that this half can be
assimilated by this and this and this, but when we divide it in three
we get a note which in music is called a fifth. Strange, that they
should call it a fifth when it’s really a third of the length
of the string, but there is a way of reconciling that. But the point
is that that third will not vibrate harmoniously with that half. So
that it cannot be assimilated by it. But if we take factors of odd
and even numbers, and build them up, we can arrive at a number that
can assimilate both odd and even, can’t we?
So, well, supposing
we take three fives. Now that will assimilate two odd numbers, won’t
it ... three and five? If we take three fours it assimilates an even
number and an odd number. So there’s something mysterious about
twelve, isn’t there? ... because it can assimilate an odd and
an even number. We’re excluding one and two because they are
special cases. The reason why they are special cases: this is one ...
one inside and one outside. That makes two. The one outside is
infinite, and the one inside is finite. So one and two are very, very
But from the point
of three onwards, the first synthetic number — one isn’t
synthetic, it’s unanalysed — the first synthetic odd
number is three, and the next is four, and three times four is
twelve. So in twelve we have a means of assimilating short
frequencies derived from the third and from the half. You can cut the
half into a half, quarters, eighths, sixteenths. And the third into
sixths, twelfths and so on.
So this question of
the fundamental beat of matter is very important. If we wanted to, we
could cut that into thirteen times seven plus one, which would give
us the atomic scale, namely ninety-two elements, ignoring isotopes
for the time being. When we come down to the smallest particle, it is
a definite subdivision of the diameter of the universe, which means
to say that it has a definite resonance relation with other parts of
the universe. That means that there is something in man —
namely his physical body — which is made of the earth, which is
made of primary elements vibrating at definite wavelengths, which are
necessarily related to the planetary cycle, the whole mass of matter
in the solar system, and to an octave structure — the sun
itself — and then to the sidereal system, and then to the whole
universe. So that then matter is no more than a series of
sub-divisions, right down to the smallest subatomic particle there
is, which has a definite periodistic function, a definite frequency
of its own, and a wavelength. And the whole question of assimilation
therefore is fundamentally one of frequency.
we could get a saw and we make its teeth like this, and we get
another saw with the teeth exactly the same pitch, they fit. If we
get another saw where the teeth don’t fit, then it cannot
assimilate, we can’t put them together. [15:36]
Now in the case of
measuring on a Vernier, we have this sort of saw tooth, don’t
we, and a finer saw tooth and at some point there will be a
coincidence. There’s one on here, accidental. The rest of them
will be out. Now if you remember we said before if we take the six
pointed star, and put a five-pointed star in it, if we put one point
of the five and one of the six, the rest are out of phase. So you can
assimilate through one sense when you are concentrated and therefore
not through the others at the same time.
fundamentally we can say that this question of assimilation is one of
frequency, and every particle of food that you eat, every drug, every
chemical, is made of fundamental frequencies that must go into their
own places somewhere along this diameter line of the universe.
what we call thinking in a man is really formal presentation,
serially, isn’t it? For instance, if we say, think of a cube
... there’s a cube. Now that is an image ... Plato would have
said that is the lowest kind of thinking there is, because it’s
imposed upon us. When we see that, we can tell that that peculiar
thing isn’t the same as a crescent, and we cannot be deceived
by that [crescent] to think that it’s that [cube]. It doesn’t
allow us to do so. So in that sense, we are slaves if we work at the
sense perception level. Because perceiving, say, these compasses
closed, and then we open them, it’s not very smart to be able
to tell that they are open when we do this and closed when we do
this. It’s an imposition. So man’s freedom does not
consist in the sense world, because the sense world merely reflects
what there is outside. This is why it is said that man’s
freedom is within. Man is not free in his relation with the external
world, because it imposes upon him, giving him the so-called sense
data ... which are what they are whether he likes it or not.
So we’ve got
this idea that assimilation is fundamentally no more than the actual
resonance of already related partials of a string, which in its
widest sense may be called the diameter of the universe.
Now, when a person
is thinking there is also a definite frequency in his mind. If he
looks at the light, the light imposes on him. If he looks for a long
time, and then looks against a dark curtain, he will then see an
after-image from the light begin to superimpose itself. If you look
at the light until it fills your eye with light, and you should begin
to see colours round it, and turn into a dark place, the light will
form itself, and you will then find that it will start drifting
about. And with a little bit of practice you can cause it to come
near to you, which is a very peculiar thing. You can actually make it
come very close so you can examine the details. Although it really
was up there, you begin to have a certain amount of power over it,
because you are now dealing with something that is half from outside
and half from inside. And the nearer it is to your inside the greater
the degree of freedom you have over it. [19:08]
Now every frequency
has a very definite chemical characteristic. And you know that when
we are examining the chemistry of stellar bodies with a prism, we use
spectrum analysis to determine the presence of sodium or other
elements in stars. If a surface reflects light to us, we can tell by
the characteristic colours in the spectrum, what chemicals there are,
there. That is called ordinary physical science.
What is not usually
realised is this: that an emotion is also a frequency, and it has a
very definite relationship with particular material substances ... a
frequency relationship. Such that if you eat certain food you are
absorbing frequencies which tend to make you think and feel in a
certain way. If you take a certain ... supposing we said that is a
certain substance, and you eat it, well then all the partials —
that is, the sub-divisions of that — will vibrate in you as
well. And at the top level here, it is an identity of ideation,
thinking and emotion.
So that it is upon
this that the restrictions about diet are based in yoga: namely that
thought itself is a kind of motion with a definite frequency and
wavelength, with definite relations to the foods that you eat. So
that if you are in a certain mood, you can assimilate certain foods;
and if you are in another mood you may be unable to assimilate the
Sometimes you find a
fellow saying, I’ve just been put off my food by so-and-so.
He had a good appetite and he was about to eat and then up spake
Spurious Latius or somebody and suddenly his appetite is gone. Why?
His food is the same, the man is the same, but a stimulus has come,
stimulated something in his memory and altered his fundamental
frequency, so that now he cannot deal adequately with that food. If
you persuade him to swallow it, it does not follow that his stomach
can deal with it. It might lie very heavily on his stomach for a long
time. So that really, you have to tune yourself in to the food that
you get. [21:35]
the audience] Would you say for instance if you start to receive new
ideas it might start you to want to eat different kinds of foods.
Oh, yes. Well you
know that, in the case of a pregnant woman, don’t you? You know
that they have ... they start thinking that they want things they
didn’t want before. And those are genuine things, they’re
not empty fantasies. They are chemical needs. There is a certain
chemical need for making the child which previously they did not
themselves need because they hadn’t got that kind of emotion.
Sometimes a woman may think to herself, I’m such-and-such a
being, and then suddenly she has a child and she thinks she’s
another kind of being, because chemical changes have occurred. She
may be alright to live at a certain level; and then when she changes
her level emotionally, she changes her chemical need. Because there
is nothing in the universe, whatever it is, a gross material, subtle
material which is the mind ... the mind itself is a very fine matter:
and the soul, feeling, the soul specifically is the sentiency. Being,
feeling, and spirituality are all matters of frequency. Whatever is,
has a definite beat, and the top beat of all is the beat that we call
spirituality. Below that there is the psychic one, and then below
that, smaller and smaller, we are concerned with the gradual
appearance of these partials, which are gross matter as far as we are
Unity of Purpose
So that no matter
what it is — you can think of it in terms of these teeth ... do
they fit or do they not — supposing we take all these people
who are in this room, who at the moment, maybe assumed to be
interested in certain aspects of this subject. If they are interested
in the same
aspect, they must be using the same frequency.
Sometimes in a
spiritualist circle you get a request that everybody sits round, and
lets the finger of the hand ... say the little finger ... touches the
thumb of the next person. All sit in a circle, and then all
concentrate on one thing. Well, the purpose of doing that is to
persuade the mind to beat in unison. Because when you’ve got
unity, you have power. If you’ve got unity in your own being,
you’ve got power. Whereas if you have too many purposes which
cannot be logically related, then your power, although it is there,
is dispersed in various directions, and does not appear as effective
power, because it lacks unity.
[comment from the
audience] I begin to see the idea now: that if you’re using up
energy and at a certain frequency you’re going to require to
take out of the food to replace that food at that frequency, is that
Yes. Well, it will
be shown scientifically, that if a man eats exactly the same food ...
supposing we say to a man, here’s some mashed potato and
we mash them all up to give a more or less homogeneous consistency.
And then we divide them arbitrarily in half and say, now I want
you to eat this half today, and I’m going to tell you funny
stories while you eat it, and then we are going to take the excrement
and measure the chemistry in it. and tomorrow you are going to at the
other half, and we’re going to tell you horrible stories —
not funny stories — and we’ll do the same thing, and
it will then be shown by resonance that the man has taken something
out of the one that he hasn’t taken out of the other.
This is going on all
the time. This is why you can’t get the same diet to work for
different people in the same way. This is why you can’t get the
same drug. Which will give you, say ...
take penicillin ... it’s the wonderdrug of the journalists, yet
its percentage of successes, which is a statistical statement, is
such, I think about four years ago it was about fifteen percent of
immediate success. This depends on the chemistry of the person that
takes it. Giving a drug, giving any kind of treatment whatever where
you introduce bodies from outside for assimilation, must take into
consideration the type of the person that’s going to receive it
... his chemical type.
Now if you get a
book like Culpeper’s Herbal: the medicine of his day was one
thing, but he was a rather unusual fellow, and he liked the
old-fashioned way. Like Paracelsus did in many ways. In fact
Paracelsus invented this modern method of injecting metals into
people, for certain resonance reasons. No two people can assimilate
the same substance in the same way. The same person cannot assimilate
the same medicine in the same way in two separate acts.
[comment from the
audience] There can never be a complete accuracy of measurement,
Why an Egg Becomes a Human Being
That is why it is
said to be now a statistical science. The 18th century
dream that there was a definite number of material particles which,
as they said were fortuitously running about and producing
accidentally a universe, and their velocities and directions being
known, you should be able to write the history of the universe
forwards and backwards. That was a dream. It’s no
correspondence at all with fact. They had never at that time seen
atoms walking about, and colliding, and fortuitously getting together
to make a frog or something. It was an assumption, a kind of dream
... because the mind of man is always looking for a final
explanation, which if he gets it, he thinks he can stop and fold his
arms, and that will be the end of it. But the universe isn’t
like that. The universe is fundamentally a continuum of power. And
because it is a continuum, a straight line, these things which
science counts — because science is based on measurement, and
statistical measurement of that — these things can never tell
you what’s going on down here.
The invention of an
infinitesimal calculus is an attempt to deal with smaller and smaller
and smaller distances between here, but it can’t deal with
nothing. There’s an attempt in mathematics to deal with what
are called infinite qualities. They borrowed a Hebrew letter, Aleph,
and by using the term Aleph Nur, which means a number when
added multiplied or divided by itself to make precisely what it was
the first time, namely zero, this is an attempt to get down to this
substratum. Most people think it is meaningless, but it isn’t.
It’s an attempt to discover why this baseline can produce these
Why does an egg
become a human being? You look inside it with a microscope, all you
can see is some little strings with knobs on. In the old days they
used to think that inside an egg was a little man waiting to have his
dinner and grow big. It isn’t true. Inside there are some
little weird granules. But somehow they are the vehicle whereby a
force outside them, namely the macrocosmic force, presses into that
egg and produces a man out of it. Somehow the man isn’t in the
egg. He’s outside the egg, but he gets into the egg by pressing
on it, and producing modulations which fundamentally are frequencies.
You take, say, the
high bridge nose of the Jews as a race: that high-bridgeness there is
a product of haughtiness of spirit, of thinking high. Each nation has
a definite psychological tendency which produces a physical
structure. Because the modeller of form is first, feeling: first
feeling, then the function, then the ratification of the function in
So that we can say
about diseases in general, they begin with feeling slightly off
colour. If the person becomes hypnotised by that, or begins to think
it’s useful to dodge some issue, then he starts working upon
this feeling, and gradually he alters his substance, and produces
malfunctioning. If he produces his disturbance of function over a
long time, he can make an organic breakdown. An organic breakdown
doesn’t just start like that ... it starts by some functional
disorder, which starts by some feeling disorientation to begin with.
So that the more we can control and elevate the feeling and make it
more positive, the more unity there will appear in the physical body.
The whole point in yoga terms is to become eka citta ... have
a one-pointed mind. Just have one aim and subordinate everything else
to that. What contradicts it has to go. [31:22]
Now, Khen mentioned
the zodiac and while we’re talking about assimilation, we can
deal with that. This circle cuts itself spontaneously into the right
number. Now if we bisect the angles between these, there’s our
six pointer. That fits exactly. And we bisect these angles and
produce our twelve divisions. [32:00]
This is really a
device which is fundamentally a new way of dealing with the
macrocosmos, the big universe itself, and reducing it down to the
level where it is useful to men.
We draw one little
circle and another, and another, and another for ease of analysis.
We draw one circle
and we put in it a triangle that way, and we’ll write on it the
sign of the Ram, Leo, and Sagittarius there. And you see the Ram is
like a V, you probably know it. Now that is a so-called fire triad
taken out, and actually refers to the nervous system of the human
being ... the being’s nervous energy.
invert that one and we put this triad, in and this is at the bottom
Libra, and there Aquarius, and here Gemini. Now that’s our air
triad which has to do with intellect, ideas and the respiratory
apparatus: the breathing apparatus in your body. Breathing is very
closely linked with thinking, very closely linked with judgement. You
know that when you start judging events your breathing alters. If you
decide that something is very, very bad and should be stopped, you
find that your breathing begins to reflect your judgement. The Greek
word for lungs is phren, which means mind. So they knew
that there was a very close relation between thinking and breathing.
And of course you can fire ideas at people and make them very
excited, so that their breathing accelerates and they get
palpitations. And yet you’ve only spoken to them. It shows the
power of judgement over the breathing apparatus, particularly.
Now we have here the
water triad. That’s a triangle there with Cancer there, I’d
better write this in full ... write 69 lying on its side, and that’s
the sign of Caner; Scorpio down here, which is an M with an arrow on
its tail; and then the sign of Pisces up there which is two
semi-circles back to back.
then over here the final triad, Capricorn which is the sign of the
Ram, plus the sign of Taurus ... Taurus is the sign of the Grecian
thing I won’t draw. A loop. And Virgo is like an M, with the
same loop added to it. I’ll just show you those, they’re
a bit difficult. The sign of the Ram is like that, the sign of Taurus
is like that. If we add Taurus here, to the Ram, it’s the sign
of the Goat, Capricorn. I’ll explain why in a moment. [35:25]
on its own ... we do a letter M, and then we put the sign of Taurus
on it at the side. So in these three earth signs we are using the
sign of Taurus three times, and that’s because that Taurus
means to turn. Tor ... you see? That’s Rota, you see?
All matter is
rotation of power. So when we are talking about the matter of your
body we are talking about rotations of power. And therefore Taurus is
turning things, you can spell that T.A.U. if you like. Or this is the
Hebrew way of spelling it ... one way is Greek, if you spell it with
an O [TOR] there; it’s Latin if you spell it with a U [TUR],
and an A.U. there [TAURUS]. But the fundamental concept is T.R.,
which is the rota concept. [36:22]
So in the case of
the earth sign, it’s to do with your physical body which
manifests in the ... specifically in the bone structures, which are
the nearest things to the mineral world, aren’t they? They’re
the parts that when you get hold of a living human being and boil him
until the flesh falls off, it’s something that’s still
there ... that’s the bone, and that’s the really earth
part of you. The rest of the stuff is, if you get a living man and
heat him up, you’ll drive off the most volatile substances
first. Then you’ll find various sediments chemically
afterwards. All those added together are the earth substances of the
we’ll consider what they are. I’m going to put ... I’ll
put the sign of the Ram in here for a moment. It should have been at
the top. We’ll call that twelve o’clock. Then it goes
round. Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio,
Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces. Now I want you to think
about this as a psychosomatic device. It tells you something about
your mind and something about your body at the same time. [37:49]
When we come to
consider the earth signs, that’s Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo,
we can see very clearly what it means. This means assimilation,
absorption, this Capricornian, the goat, is the being that has a ‘go
at’ anything. You know that the symbol of the goat in the Old
Testament is that person that throws himself into the situation and
gets into trouble and therefore we talk about the scapegoat; a being
that pays the price of other people’s carefulness in dangerous
situations. There’s always one that can’t quite control
himself and rushes forward first. And he is the one who is blamed,
although everybody wanted to do the same thing. So this fellow who
must have a ‘go at’ is called the goat.
And you know that
the goats in general are not herded in the plains like sheep; they
jump on the mountain tops. So that when it says the separating of
the sheep and the goats, in the Revelation,
it means separating those independent spirits that are always trying
to do it on their own, from the massed spirits, called sheep.
And where the goats have to go and where the sheep have to go is not
necessarily a bad thing. The goats ... where the goats go that’s
where they like to go. It is called hell to sheep, because the
sheep like to get together. But the goats like to be independent.
This is why Jacob Boehme says that the angels call the good, good —
but the devils call the bad, good. So this is your primary absorption
of matter. So a person born with a stress on there is really pitched
in this necessity of absorbing matter through food.
And this sign
[Taurus] means secretion: it has to do with the glandular system. The
food that you have absorbed, you now hide it in certain centres in
the body: glands of internal secretion. And you store it there and
you let a bit of it out every now and then, it goes round the body.
And this one [Virgo]
has to do with the circulation of the food. So that’s three
processes: taking the food in, hiding the food in particular parts of
the body, at the glandular system, and then circulating it to produce
a balanced whole.
Remember we said
last week that the chemistry in different parts of the human body ...
the blood is not the same. The chemistry of the blood in the brain is
not the same as the chemistry of the blood in your thigh muscle.
Because each part of the body has some substance being manufacture
and been poured into it at that part, so there’s high
saturation of a certain chemical from a gland. And far away there’s
less saturation of that, and something else is the dominant
influence. So that the same chemical injected into one part of the
body of the same man will not produce the same effect if you inject
it into another part of the same man ... because he’s
chemically different in different places.
I mentioned Culpeper
before: he said it is no good knowing the right remedy unless
you’ve got the right man to give it to, and it’s time.
And when he said it’s time, he meant to say that there’s
a definite relation in resonance between something that most people
would tend to scoff at, but not modern scientists: they’re a
bit cautious now ... namely that certain plants have definite
relationships with certain planets. They were said anciently to be
under the dominion of Mars, of Venus and so on. We know that all
vegetable life has very, very close statistical relationship with the
planet Venus. We know that the coffee in Brazil is largely determined
by the Venusian cycle, and we know that the moon itself has a
profound effect on germination. This statistically, which is the same
thing as saying scientifically. [42:09]
And the scientists
therefore are today considerably less dogmatic about this. And he
said, if a planet is ruling a certain plant, when you take that
plant and abstract from it a certain chemical and give it to a man
who is antipathetic to that planet, it won’t help him ... it
will annoy him. We talk about man as being — say, in
ancient terms, we might have said — a man is choleric ... is a
man that tends to fly into bad tempers, he’s an angry man, and
so on. They had four types of men, and those four types are still
valid and they’re involved in here as we will see: the first,
the absorption taking in; the storing or secretion in particular
places; then the rotation or circulation of those to maintain harmony
of the body. That is for the physical things. We’ll come back
to them again in a minute. [43:12]
Now we take the
water signs, so-called, which have to do with all the fluids in your
body ... all the fluid substances. And these are peculiarly related
to your feeling. Just like the bones are a lever system related to
your motor activities, so the water signs are related to the fluids
in your body.
And when we start
with Cancer, it means the whole of the fluids in your body.
When we talk about
Scorpio, it means particulars.
And when we talk
about Pisces it means — like Virgo meant — the
circulation again; the relating factor.
So a person with
this stress has a diffused feeling awareness ... the Cancer type. The
Scorpio type has gathered his feeling together, and he’s a very
zealous man. Zeal is his essential characteristic. And the Pisces
type is an emotional man: he’s whizzing it round, tends to fly
out. There’s a certain amount of unity in Scorpio, but it
manifests as zeal and drive. There’s a lot of disunity
emotionally in Pisces; it tends to spit itself out in many, many
diverse ways. But it’s all to do with the fluids of the body,
and with the life of feeling. So that’s at the psyche. These
signs [earth] are like the gross physical body, this [water] is like
the soul life, the feeling life ...
[.... break in
Then we come to the
air signs. Libra means perception.
Just like we said
taking in gross matter there [earth], taking in fluids in general
[water], we now are saying taking in sense data. First we must
perceive. When we’ve perceived then we unify them all in the
memory. So that Aquarius, the so-called water carrier, water is
plasticity; it is the form retainer.
First perceive, then
remember, then evaluate. So Gemini means judgement or evaluation.
That’s why we’ve got this two pillars ... the right and
left hand of the Solomonic temple.
seeing as much as you can; storing it up in the memory; and judging
from it. And that is the intellectual triad, and has to do with your
breathing apparatus. As a matter of fact, if you try deliberately to
perceive a lot of things — it doesn’t matter what they
are — if you just took the contents of that table, and tried to
go round them, just seeing them as quickly as you could, you’d
find your breathing had accelerated ... merely to try to do it,
although they are not particularly exciting things there, I don’t
think. There aren’t any funny knobbles there. Nevertheless if
you actually tried to force yourself just to see them, you will start
accelerating your breathing process. And that’s very closely
linked with your heart, which is the centre of your circulation
Now when we come to
this triad we get nervous energy as a whole, which would give a great
belief in capacity, a very quick mind, and tending to dominate or
hoping to dominate the situation, because they feel that they have
the nervous energy to do so. But that’s only the general
feeling of it ... not the particular.
When we come into
Leo, it has become gathered together into a ball, and therefore we
say that Leo is the peculiar sign of wilfulness. It is the sign of
And then we come
here to that which balances these two. This is the individuated will
[Leo], and that is the general [Aries]. And this one goes in between
both [Sagittarius]. So this one alternates between the
undifferentiated nervous energy and the unified, or volitional
nervous energy. So that’s shortly an explanation of the
through them again now, and look at the logic of it and see how
useful it is for us if we can start off with a certain
characteristic, because this wheel was specially devised as a method
of dealing with people with certain temperaments.
Supposing we say
here is a person born in the sign of Gemini, we know therefore that
he tends — I’m ignoring his heredity ...
[... break in
... either/or with
them, and there’s no end to it. The only way you can help that
kind of person is to choose something they haven’t thought of,
and rush them into it ... which is the opposite sign. Now the reply
to every kind of behaviour is simply to play the opposite kind of
Supposing we take a
person the sign of Pisces which is emotional activity: that is
emotional activity. And straight opposite to it is Virgo. Now the
Virgoic type is solid, feels itself to be fairly reliable. It’s
sure that it’s the most reliable kind of being there is, and in
certain ways it is. And it has such a solid stable centre in it that
when emotional people are about, if a Virgo enters, it appears to be
a centre of security. [49:14]
So the correct reply
to an emotional person is not to join in, and start pulling your hair
out by handfuls, but to go all Virgoic with yourself, settle down,
and be very, very solid and think that you’re made of matter.
And thereby you contradict that emotional contagion. We could go
around the whole circle but it would take rather a long time to do
it. I’d rather go back and explain the logic of this process.
of all, all the energy in the universe, before creation, we may
consider as a continuum. And it is not synthetic, because it has not
yet been analysed. And we will call that the undifferentiated whole.
So there’s an undifferentiated nervous energy before it enters
into a human being. So we can refer to that, the nervous energy, the
kind of vibration that appears in a human being as nervous energy, is
a definite frequency. And we call that a Cardinal sign, and put C for
Cardinal. If we draw the George Cross on here, like this, those are
the Cardinal Signs:
nervous energy, the sign of the ram: undifferentiated feeling,
Cancer: undifferentiated perception, Libra: undifferentiated
absorption of food, Capricorn. That’s all undifferentiated, and
that is prior to creation.
But the moment that
that force enters into a finite organism like a human being, then it
is no longer undifferentiated. It’s like pumping air into a
balloon. The air may be outside, undifferentiated, you pump it into
the balloon, and straight away if we draw the balloon inside there
and draw the molecules of air that you pumped in, they’re
rushing about and colliding with each other, and hitting on the
inside of the skin and bouncing back. So that straight away they
haven’t got that absolutely free motion that they had outside.
They are now conditioned by the fact of existing. This means to say
that every force that gets inside a finite being, like a human being,
like a stimulus ... the light stimulus goes in your eye, goes in
certain brain cells but comes to a term inside the end of a nervous
line, and it sets up a beat and then the ripple starts all the way
back again. So that in the unified state —that is, the energy
entered into a finite system — we pass then to the signs called
And I’ll put
here the top sign there, the Ram is undifferentiated, the opposite
sign here was Libra, that’s undifferentiated, Cancer is the
undifferentiated, and Capricorn ... there’s the George Cross.
Now if we go
clockwise, round one stage, we come to Leo ... that is the first
differentiation of it. And it is called a fixed sign because the
energy has now got itself fixed up in a body. Perception, passing
into a finite system, becomes memory. That is, every perception of
light goes in, produces a modification in my brain, and my brain is
never the same again. It has now been modified, and that modification
is memory ... so that the undifferentiated perception becomes memory
when it enters a closed system like a human being.
undifferentiated feeling, when it enters a closed system becomes
zeal. As if we were to pump water into a balloon — this is the
water triad — and pump it and pump it and pump it, at a certain
point there will be a weak place in the skin of the balloon, and it
will burst there, and the water will shoot out. And that is the
tendency of these feelings signs. When the feeling builds up to a
certain level something must happen, and in the case of the Scorpio
stressed person, their whole life is driven from within by feeling.
So that is then the
fixed sign: Scorpio. And
Taurus is the fixed sign for the earth. Remember, we take the
undifferentiated food, put it in, break it down and then hide in
glandular structures for use for distribution later.
first signs we call the undifferentiated or cardinal. The second ones
we call fixed. And the third ones we call mutable, that is, they can
change, they can either be undifferentiated or fixed because they’ve
already done both. This has to do with reincarnation. If you’ve
done a bit of that, and you’ve done a bit of that, then you can
rock between them, and say, well, today I’m wilful, tomorrow
I’m reasonable, and so on. Whereas, it’s very hard
for these beings to be reasonable or undifferentiated, because
they’ve only just gained their unity. So we’ll find that
people stressed Leo are men of will, they’re wonderful
pioneers, they get things done. But they really cannot rest, they
cannot not-do-things. Things must be done, and they must be done by
them. So we have to see the logic of this: that whatever it is that
exists, must first exist prior to creation, which is its Cardinal’s
hinge, it is upon that that everything hinges, like a stonehinge
[sic]. And then it must enter into a closed system, whereupon
it reverberates inside the system. And then it must burst out of the
system again to regain its freedom.
So those are
logically the three things. Energy coming in ... my pencil is
refusing to co-operate [an aside] ... energy swings in from
infinity, turns round — that’s the sign of Taurus —
presses into its centre and then shoots out again. That completes the
whole process, doesn’t it?
Solar energy comes
into a plant, and by means of the chlorophyll in its leaves, it
synthesises certain elements in the atmosphere using the sunlight as
its primary energy. And after a time leaves come shooting out, fruits
come shooting out and then it throws its seeds about ... scatter.
So there is the
logic. First, undifferentiated non-creative, then the creative,
packing in of more and more energy, and finally the out-throw. And
it’s very, very important to realise that in any situation
whatever, for any kind of being — every finite being, every
animal, every vegetable, every human being — is in a situation
where forces are coming at him, piling into his organism, and will
wind up inside until they’ve made such a pressure that they
will come out ... unless he understands how to control them. [57:01]
Now in the case of
sexual urges, we know it’s perfectly obvious. Certain forces
come into the body — they’re not individual forces,
they’ve no regard whatever for individuals — they come
into the body, they are determined to procreate. They periodically
build up, they build up all the time, but they periodically release
... so they have to start building again. The energy comes in, piles
itself up until the chemical messengers from those centres, going all
over the body keep saying, go on, go on, time to release this lot
of this, new inhabitants of the earth. And therefore the process
called ejaculation or out-shouting must occur unless
some method is devised of turning them in and transforming their
frequency onto another level, which it is possible to do.
that’s called sublimation. A man wants to do various
naughtinesses, instead of which he decides to build the Sydney single
expansion bridge. Now that can be done with it. It’s possible
to create a work of art with the very, very same energy lifted to
another level. But it has to be understood that you are dealing with
infinite energy coming into a finite system, and it will shoot out in
some form of symptom ... unless you understand how to change its
So we can say that
from the moment a child is born, energies are piling in through its
food: solar radiation, cosmic radiations of various types. And they
are forcing that child to grow. The child cannot refuse to grow at
that level. It must grow because energy is coming in and packing it
on the inside, and it will grow to the term for its type of being.
And then energies start shooting out. And when a stimulus comes from
outside and hits on an energy storage, the energy storage tends to
react and throw more out. So a person may be practising self-control
for a few days, and think, I’m doing very, very well,
and suddenly somebody says what is called, the wrong word. And
then quite suddenly it’s apparent that that self control was
merely a bottling process. [59:27]
Assimilation at a higher level
Now it says in the
book of words, no man can be continent except god wills.
Continent means contained. It means you cannot, as a finite system,
contain all those energies, unless God allows you to. And that can
only be if you do with it what He wants you to do.
There is a method of
doing it. That is to say, you can take the same energy that would
fire at a particular target and deliberately think of the Macrocosmic
being instead — which is equivalent to doing something that god
wants you to do — and then you can contain the energy; it
actually changes its frequency. You can then assimilate it at a
higher level. And that which was merely a physical urge is then
transmuted onto a higher ideational and emotional level. It will
actually solve problems for you, the same energy that would get you
into trouble can get you out, providing you shift your attention from
the particular onto the universal.
God is concerned
with reminding all creatures that they are derived from the
universal, and trying to persuade them to behave as if there were
only one whole being with many little children internal to it, like
the seeds in a pomegranate. You know the temple of Solomon had its
pillars crowned with pomegranates to symbolise that, because a
pomegranate is full of seeds, and it’s a kind of diagram of the
Khen] 365, according to John’s paper ... every one. [laughter]
I’ve been waiting to tell you that.
One for every day of
the year. There should be a quarter one somewhere. Anyhow, we
consider this as a diagram of the four systems in the body — we
have four organic systems in the body — physically, and also as
a psychological device.
Physically, it means
there is nervous energy [fire], there is breathing [air], there is
feeling in the fluids [water], and there is absorption of food
means there’s a very definite relationship between wilfulness
and nervous disorders, because this nervous energy is that energy
which becomes will when it enters into a finite being. So that people
that tend to be wilful are the same people that tend to be neurotic.
Now if we take the
opposite of fire — that’s water — the water people
in general, with the exception of Scorpio that is ruled by Mars, they
are adaptable, and they do not tend to neurosis. What they tend to is
something quite different: they tend to enjoy themselves and not be
too particular about what are called this world’s moral
consideration. They tend to be hedonist, to enjoy life. They say that
life is for pleasure and for the avoidance of pain, and, if we can
get on very, very nicely together, it’s good enough for us ...
you can keep your air sign theory.
Now the air sign
type in general hasn’t got that kind of feeling, but prefers a
process of judging everything, evaluating everything perpetually, and
therefore tends to lack feeling. But if you remember, Plato said,
feeling is the unity principle in your body, and thinking is the
disunity principle. It is thinking that breaks you up: it’s
analytic. It is feeling One that will renew your wholeness. So it’s
very important to see the difference. [01:03:30]
Now in the case of
the earth kind, we can see an illustration of what psychologically is
called psychothymia, where we divide people into two kinds:
schizophrenics, and cycloids.
The air sign
intellectual tends to split up into subsidiary personalities ... it’s
called schizophrenia. The Earth sign tends to be alternately
depressed and elated, but it keeps always his own personality. It is
always Maggie Mumps who is depressed, you see, and elated and
depressed and elated. Now if we take the extreme case of this, the
insane people who are cycloid, they tend to commit suicide after a
depression has just finished ... never in it. Because when they’re
thoroughly depressed they can’t do anything about it. But if
they’ve been depressed and then they’ve been elated and
then they’ve been depressed and elated in a continuous cycle,
they get fed up of returning to a depression that they’re just
escaping. So when they come out of a depression they get enough
energy to commit suicide before they have time to get to the peak of
elation and become depressed again. So there’s a definite
period for the cycloid type when we have to watch them very, very
carefully because they tend to do away with themselves ... not in the
depth of a depression when most people would think, but when they are
coming out of it. [1:05:00]
Earth: Cycloid (Bi-polar) control
terms it would be a warning to all earth signs to avoid depression.
And the way to avoid depression is very simple, mechanically: never
allow yourself to be elated and you can never be depressed. You see,
it’s again this waveform. If you allow yourself to go —
there’s your median line — if you allow yourself to go
up, that is, you push the string up there, it must fly down again ...
so that this is the way to conquer depression. Because in depression
you can do nothing at all except sit and be depressed. You wait until
you tend to be elated and you pull down that elation, knowing that if
you manage to pull it down you cannot be any lower the median line in
your depression than you allowed yourself to be exalted above it. In
Bible terms, the mountains shall be brought low and the valleys
shall be exalted.
Such symbolic expressions are psychologically significant in this
in dealing with an earth stressed person — a cycloid, manic
depressive type — the important thing is to teach them not to
be exalted. They feel fine, why shouldn’t I feel fine, I’ve
been depressed for so long? The answer is, that is why! If
you do not pull yourself down when you are exalted, you must fly to
the equivalent depth to the height you’ve allowed yourself to
And if they practice
... lots of people I know that were very cycloid in temperament in
this manner have completely cured themselves. The ideal is to get
that tendency-to-exalt hardly to move over the median line, so that
it can’t go below it ... you then get an even keel of life ...
you’ve got self control. And you know that if you get excited
and flip up ... pull yourself down. And you know that if you’ve
allowed yourself up, and managed to pull yourself down, you will be
pleased that you’ve done it. So that when you become depressed
later, you will be equipped in your memory with the knowledge that
next time you’re elated you can pull yourself down a bit more,
and the depression will reduce.
characteristics of those people are: they are pitched in the physical
body ... they tend to be cycloid in behaviour, all totally depressed
and elated, the cure is pull down the elation and then the
depression cannot occur because of that physical fact.
The water signs tend
to be rather easy going and pleasure loving. They’re the most
pleasant people in the world to get on with ... for other people in
general. They’re not always the best people for themselves,
because it isn’t always possible in this world to enjoy
yourself all the time ... for that is their campaign.
Air: Schizophrenes and the link factor
The air signs tend
to split, because of their analytical processes, into many little
subsidiary entities ... so-called split personalities. You can see
the mechanics of that very simply in this sense. Supposing you study
arithmetic, and then you leave it alone and then study foreign
languages, then you leave that alone and study music, and you leave
that alone and decide you’re going to the pictures for
relaxation, during which time you eat chocolate and bananas and so
on, and then you come out and decide that it’s time you went
the pace, so you go and get drunk. And you do all these different
activities and you never find the common factor in them all.
if you don’t find the link factor between these different
activities, what you are really doing is engramming on your brain
substance knowledges of certain fields of activity that are quite
discrete ... they’ve nothing to do with the other activities.
So there’s no link factor, and then when the nervous energy
plays through those parts, it operates so that a man one moment is a
very, very rational being — that’s because he’s
practiced being logical for a time — and then during the next
period, he isn’t being rational at all because the energy now
has moved. It can’t stay always in the same place in the brain
... it must move. When it moves to another place then the fellow
thinks, oh I think I’ll do a little bit of music practice
now. And half way through that the energy moves to another zone,
it thinks, I’ll go to the pictures instead.
This is caused by
the movement of energies through the different zones in the brain.
And you know each zone in the brain has a specific function to do
with the actions of the body. So the important thing for dealing with
the schizophrenic type is to give him the link factors that tie
together all the different activities.
A man goes to a
football match, another man hates football and likes cricket. You say
to both of them, after all it’s a ball game. And you
start telling them that they’ve got eleven in both. Eleven
cricketers, eleven footballers. Why eleven? Why is a cricket pitch
twice eleven long? Why are there three stumps? ... and so on. All
these games are symbolical. They’re ball games. And all the
ball games can be linked together as games which are really metaphors
of activities of the will: because ball means will.
B-all, means the whole: ball. Boll, with an O in, is the Greek form
of the Latin V.O.L. ... volition. This is the boll: the circle.
Energy comes in and turns round: that’s boll. This one is
called Vul as in Vulcan ... the gentleman that hides underneath
volcanoes, and hammers. This is Vul, and this is Vol. That is
So that when we talk
about ball games we are talking about will games. And the whole
object is to pass that ball through an arch of some kind, isn’t
it? So in this sense, this represents the initiative power. Freud
would have said, oh well, it’s just a male symbol, and the
goalpost is a female symbol. In the case of rugby we use a letter
H because rugby is only for decent fellows to play, isn’t it?
Now can you see symbolically why in rugby they have an H goalpost
instead of what is in effect a khet [Hebrew letter].
Well it’s the
sign of spirit. Now supposing you take, this is the diaphragm.
These games were made by beings long ago to train their children.
There’s your diaphragm in the H, you see, and the footballer
kicks underneath it all the time. But the rugby man who’s
training to be a gentleman, he has to get the ball over the bar,
doesn’t he? He must keep the will up. [01:12:12]
Now this is a method
of linking for the sake of these schizy-type people ... linking
together what these ball games are about ... they’re all
symbolic. It’s not accidental that they have in a certain game
for a certain class of people a certain number of players. It isn’t
accidental that the ball has to be kicked over in rugby and kicked
under for ordinary folk.
the more you can think about ball games in that way — that the
ball equals will, and is a masculine sign and the goal itself is a
feminine sign — spirit itself is feminine prior to creation,
because the positing is the first masculine, because Latin macula
means a spot. We put an ‘s’ in it ... ma-s-cula. You see,
that is the same as a masculine sign. Men are the original spots or
blots on the escutcheon of spirit, you see? They’re throw in
... that is like the Hebrew letters yod which you would draw just
like that. That’s a Hebrew yod, which is our jot in English,
that Christ refers to. Not one jot or tittle shall pass away.
There is the goal, you see? That’s Het, hedge, limit. This yod
is the drawing of a hand, like that, and it means creative power, and
it means the positor. Posit is that making-of-the-point. Po...Sit. A
Po is power, Sit means you put your power down, let it Sit. So this
yod or jot, the Greek iota, is the jot or tittle that cannot pass
away ‘til all is fulfilled, because as long as things exist
there must be positing of power. And as long as there is positing of
power, then nothing can pass away. And nothing is going to pass away
until everything has fulfilled its purpose, and therefore not one jot
can go away until all is fulfilled. It’s just a question of the
logic of it.
Now, are there any
particular questions you’d like to ask about any aspects of the
zodiac that might help to clarify any particular issues? [1:14:46]
[Member of the
audience (X)] Well, I find that I’ve got most of the other
symptoms of behaviour patterns that you give to the birth signs that
aren’t particularly my own.
In what way?
[X] Well, I find
I’m little bit of the one time I didn’t have ...getting
very late and up in the air ... the other earth sign of
changeability, starting to do something .. and deciding to do
something else ... I think I’ve had the lot, in fact.
Well now this is a
diagram of a human being, isn’t it? And a human being has these
four parts inside him. We’ve analysed them out and dealt with
them separately, but to deal with the human being we must put them
all back together and synthesis the whole man. You’re a Pisces
type aren’t you?
That means you’ve
got a primary stress there. But that primary stress, being an
emotional stress, has tended to link you to all the others, hasn’t
You see that? So
because of that stress, in a real sense your mind is very quick
internally, and you attach yourself to a lot of things, don’t
you, and have done, emotionally? So we must remember that the whole
man has all these things inside him. And the difference between one
man and other as regards this wheel is stress only. That is to say,
you are not merely one of those, you are all of these. There is
always eleven of those subordinated to one unless a stimulus comes
outside you see? Supposing we stimulate your Gemini faculty and ask
you how long is a piece of string? You’ve got to think about it
haven’t you? That takes you out of Pisces for the time being
and stress the Gemini. You see that in you? Because you’ve got
Now, if we found an
emotional being to act upon you, you would understand what he was
doing, wouldn’t you? But because you are looking for wholeness
you may not like him. In fact very often the people we are most like,
are the people we like least. Because they haven’t anything to
give us. Now, the funny thing about this is, very often people marry
someone who is on the opposite side of the wheel. And when they have
babies, they frequently bisect the angles between them. This is an
attempt on the part of nature to equilibrate all the time.
Supposing all the
giants married giants, and all the small people married smaller
people. We would have two races wouldn’t we ... the very big
and the very little? What we find is that tall people are fond of
little round people, you see, and fat people are fond of thin people,
and dark people like fair people.
This is a device of
nature’s to guarantee that the human race manages to remain
human. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a race at all, it would be a
multiplicity of different species, wouldn’t it? [01:18:03]
So we have to remind
ourselves that this is only a stress, and then we must add to it
this: you are also not only born at a particular time of the year,
but you were born of certain parents. So you have your biological
inheritance as well as your birth position to consider. Also you have
the fact that you’re born in a certain country and there’s
a certain tradition acting upon you. And you’re born on the
earth, aren’t you? ... not on Venus or on Mars. Your specific
gravity wouldn’t be the same if you’d been born on Saturn
as it is now. You see that?
So first we must
consider all these different influences. First of all you derive from
the infinite spirit — which is called the Godhead — then
you are whipped into the Macrocomic sphere, and then you are driven
through the sidereal sphere, through the solar sphere, through the
planetary sphere into the earth. You’ve already passed a lot of
influences on the way, haven’t you? Then you get into a certain
country on earth at a certain historic period on earth with a certain
tradition, in a certain family with a certain biological heritage,
and on top of that in a certain house of the zodiac.
Just ain’t no hope for you ... [laughter from the audience]
You see that you
must handle it very, very carefully. Most people say, oh, well, we
know of him, he’s a fish, cross him off. You see, he’s
emotional. Now that’s foolish, because the character of the
of the audience] I say it of myself sometimes.
Everybody says it at
sometime in their life. Subject to this number of influences which
you have to remember — they’re all valuable you know.
It’s the same as if you are studying anatomy. You have to study
the different structures, you see, start with the skeleton and then
you hang onto it various major muscle forms and subsidiaries and so
on — say artistically — and to draw a figure of a human
being in action you have to remember an awful lot of things to avoid
mistakes. And when you are trying to deal with a human being,
remember first he belongs to the absolute spirit, then he came into
the universe, he’s subjected to astral or sidereal star forces
— cosmic energies — then solar energies, planetary
energies, earth energies, national energies, particular family
biological, and then the time process on top of that, and then
external stimulation coming from outside to complicate the matter.
If you make
allowances for them all, you can be very accurate, but if you ignore
them all except one, namely the particular time you walked in, it’s
surprising how close you can get to it.
For instance if you
take even the century we are born in: we are born in the 20th
century, the first part of it, and the 19th century
inertia is riding over us still. We still believe in atoms ... by
inertia. Atoms are a fiction. We still believe in electrons. They’re
another fiction. A man like Schrodinger says, well their logically
inconsistent with themselves. Perhaps they are just wavicles ... you
see he takes the word particle and cuts the part off
and keeps the icle and then tags a wave on to it and
says it’s a wavicle, because is behaves like a wave and
like a particle. This is an attempt to put together contradictories
to explain something that’s inherently contradictory. And
they’re all myths in any case. In that sense the whole of
science is a myth. But it’s a convenient myth.
... if I tell you
that Prometheus stole fire from heaven for which the gods got very
annoyed and sent him a wife named Pandora. But Prometheus means
forethought in Greek. So he wouldn’t have that wife, he
said, “not for me, thank you. If the gods have sent me a
present after I’ve stolen fire it must be no good.”
So he refused it. [1:22:12]
But he had a brother
called Epimetheus, which means after-thought. So he married
her and then all the troubles of the world started. That is a mystic
statement, it’s myth, it is valuable. It says, “forethought
can dodge a certain amount of trouble but it gets you into another
kind of trouble”. Because Prometheus was bound to a rock
and then an eagle came and tore out his liver every day, and in the
night time he renewed it. But the eagle came back and tore it out
again the next day ... because he was a man of forethought.
Now if we go into
the world of business where men are fore-thinking all the time, they
are Promethean men. And we find that liver trouble is one of their
chief troubles, because fore-thinking has to do with the liver. And
when you are fore-thinking, you are really annoying yourself in a
variety of ways, and sewing all sorts of fears in yourself.
And the eagle is the
symbol of the intellect. So it is your intellectual activity that’s
biting at you ... that Promethean activity.
The Planetary Symbols
[Khen] How about
Liver ’pool’ in that situation? [01:23:18]
This is an amazing
thing you see, we go into Manchester and all the buses are red. We
come here and they are all a funny kind of greeny-blue aren’t
they? The same colour that you see on copper. And the same as the
lamp standards, aren’t they? Now copper is a metal sacred to
the goddess Venus ... the goddess of eroticism. And the liver is very
closely connected to that activity. It’s part of the geodetic
revelation. Who persuades the corporation to paint their lampposts
and buses in the appropriate colour of Venus? Does the Lord Mayor
know about it? [01:23:58]
They were red at one time.
Who persuaded them
to change them?
I don’t know.
You know Mars and
Venus are opposite?
Did we do the
planets in their pairs? Have we done that?
Have we a bit of
spare paper? [looking through the scroll of paper he uses for the
presentation of the talk]
These are a part of
the planetary influences but they are very simple to learn, and very,
very useful. And they’re very, very good ... [????]
We take a circle and
say that represents all there is. We draw it again and put a cross in
it to represent each there is. And then we say we like to represent
two different concepts out of this, so we’ll cut the circle in
half like that, and take the cross out and put it at the top, and put
it at the bottom. And we will then make a quick cursive sign like
this ... and like this. Now that is the sign of Saturn, as a planet;
that is the sign of Jupiter. When the cross is over the semi-circle
is means time over eternity, or contraction more than expansion. When
this semi-circle is over the cross it means the expansion is
dominating the contraction.
contraction. Jupiter means expansion. That’s one pair.
We’ll just do
them again. Saturn: time over eternity, or contraction over expansion
[Saturn], expansion over time [Jupiter]. That’s one pair.
Saturn, Sat is being ... and the urn thereof, the urn that contains
being. The idea is that when the contraction principle in the
universe dominates, you have made an urn of being. But when the
expansion dominates you have made Ju is God, piter - Father ...
Ju-piter. That’s God the Father, because the expanded condition
is prior to the contracted. Remember the uncreated state of energy is
prior to the created state. So Jupiter is older than Saturn.
Saturn is called
Chronos by the Greeks, isn’t it? Time. Time is a word emit ...
throw out ... backwards, because it depends entirely on the emission
of energy. The time process depends on energy emission.
Saturn Chronos time
is the same as Satan the devil ... is in opposition with God the
Father. But they are both half circles of a whole, which is
represented in Christ. And the sign for Christ is the sign for
Hermes, Mercury. There we are the horns, symbolising the unbounded,
the circle symbolising the bound, and the material principle, the
cross, crucifixion. So that represents the horns of your power on
your head, this represents the feeling of your chest and that
represents the fixation in the sexual energy in the lower body. So
there’s your three-part man; and that is Mercury.
if we like to say it, we can write an equation that Saturn and
Jupiter equals Mercury. We can if we want just go like this [draws
on the white paper]. And that is a legitimate equation in that
sense. Now Newton borrowed it from Jacob Boehme and said forces in
opposition — contraction and expansion — produce
rotation. This Mercury is Mer-cury, to run round. Running round.
There’s the Mer in the Mer-sey. Mercury means to run
round, and the running round is always caused by a contraction and an
expansion together. So contraction/expansion = rotation. That’s
a pair, and this is an odd one. We’ll see why this is odd, it
hasn’t got one opposite to it.
[a break here ...
moving onto assimilation 2]
We have another pair
now: Venus, circle with a cross below ... which means that the
soulish substance — the fluidity of it — is superior to
the bone or material fixation of it. That is the matter part, this is
the soul. That’s Venus, therefore she’s concerned with
feeling. That is passive ... funny way to spell passive [said as
an aside] ... circle with an arrow flying out is Mars, and that
in the very merry month of Mars at the moment and therefore the
forces in the earth are becoming active and tending to throw their
little shoots, with red ends on them waiting to grow. These two are a
pair of passive/active. It’s a method of analysing our
And we have another
pair, the moon which means body itself, and the sun ... Moon or
lunar, and Sun or sol. Now this means body [moon] and that means
force [sun]. Or that means will [sun] and that means body [moon]. We
can call it body and force or matter and force.
Ratcliffe] What’s the difference between the passive Venus, and
the body of the Moon?
Well here we are
considering the fact that it doesn’t do anything other than
receive [Venus], and here we are considering that it exists
and occupies space [Moon]. Thus the moon aspect of that is
that it exists, and occupies a definite amount of space. The Venus
aspect of it is that it won’t move unless we push it. The Venus
and the Sun differ [appears to change this sentence] ... the
Mars and the Sun differ in this way: Mars is always active, it’s
always flying out when a certain amount of energy has gone in to it,
you see? But this [Sun] symbolises the very concept of force,
quite independently of whether it has poured itself into something or
So we now have three
pairs and an odd one, and the odd one is the sign of the Messiah. Now
when god is said to create, he creates in six days, and then rests on
the seventh day. Now the seventh day for the Jews, and the seventh
day for non-Jews, is not the same day. The Christians use the Lord’s
day, Sunday, because it means illuminated: enlightened.
The Jews use Saturn’s Day because it means material cover. Now
essentially the Yiddisher type has his book, which says, obey that
thy days may be long in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
In other words it’s fundamentally materialistic. So Saturn is
their favourite day. And Christians are supposed to be wanting to
become enlightened, so Sunday is their favourite day.
But the favourite
day for other folk who know one or two tricks, is Mercury’s
Day: Mercury or Wednesday ... the quick fellow’s day. And the
quick fellow doesn’t have a materialistic outlook, and is not
particularly wanting enlightenment as such. He’s quite
satisfied with the material situation as it is, and that some people
want enlightenment, because he’s going to balance all of these
processes. He doesn’t want to be passive, he doesn’t want
to be active ... he wants to be both when he wants to be them. He
doesn’t want to be conditioned: inertic, passive. He doesn’t
want to live by liking things passively. He doesn’t want to
push things about, he doesn’t particularly want to be a
material body — hello Dear [an aside to a new arrival] —
he doesn’t particularly want to be a force. He wants to balance
the whole of possibilities.
[.... break in
The Seven Days of the Week
take?] ... the days of the week and look at them. We’ve not
got them in the order that they occur in English here, that is
Sunday, Monday, Mars is Tuesday, Tiwez is the old Norse god of War.
Venus is Friday, the old Friga’s day ... fruit Day or payday.
Mercury is Wednesday. Jupiter is Thor’s Day or Thursday ... the
hammer’s day. And Saturn is Saturday. And if you look at the
logic of it you can see just why it is that people go making merry on
Saturn’s day ... the Saturnalia or whoopee time of the
You start your day
in a moony state in the working week after you’ve had a rest in
your illuminated state on Sunday. Sunday is supposed to be devoted to
illuminating yourself ... remembering the Lord on that Day. On Monday
you’re supposed to start counting again ... go back to
business. The moon is the counter. Having counted you’re
supposed to make war on all your rivals in the business world, on
Mars day. On Mercury’s day, you’re supposed to be well
into the business field because Mercury is the patron saint of
businessmen, Rollensteins, vagabonds and leg-pullers. And on
Thursday, it’s getting late in the week so you have to hammer
it to get your quota. And Friday, you get paid ... that’s fruit
day. Saturn’s day you make whoopee.
Devoted to illuminating yourself...
remembering the Lord on that Day.
Sit down and evaluate your position. That’s your Sunday.
Moony state in the working week, start counting, going back to
business. Moon is the counter. When you’ve found out where
you are, start the next day counting, to see whether you’ve
got the wherewithal.
Mars, Tiwez, the Norse god of war
Make war on all your rivals in the
business world, on Mars’ day.
Launch forth, and aggress against the world, to further your
Well into the business field. Mercury is the patron saint of
businessmen, Rollensteins, vagabonds and leg-pullers. Mitwoch, you
should be really spinning it, rotating with mercurial speed.
Getting late so you have to hammer it to get your quota.
Venus, Friga’s day
Fruit Day or payday
Making merry on Saturn’s day. Saturnalia ... whoopee time
of the ancients
And that is the
order in which your weekly round is generally conducted. And the
funny thing is, it’s conducted practically over the western
hemisphere in the same way, and with very little modification in
other countries. In other words, there’s an inherent logic
Sometime in your
life you should sit down and evaluate your position. That’s
your Sunday. When you’ve found out where you’re up to you
should then start the next day counting, to see whether you’ve
got the wherewithal. On the next day you launch forth, and you
aggress against the world to further your purpose. On the middle day,
the Mitwoch of the Germans, you should be really spinning it,
rotating with mercurial speed, really getting about like a traveller
with fourteen different zones up and down the country. Thursday it’s
getting a little late, your quota has not been ...
... once you apply
them all, you’ll have a very good evaluation of the situation,
the audience] What happens to the loss of time, when we get the leap
year every four years. Does that alter in any way...?
doesn’t affect this because the amount of error that occurs
through using a year that isn’t quite right is infinitesimal as
far as an individual man is concerned. It is periodically corrected.
You remember on one occasion eleven days disappeared from the
calendar, and the poor people — who didn’t know that
those eleven days hadn’t really been stolen from time, they’d
just altered the calendar — took a lot of bricks and started
throwing them down Whitehall and everywhere they could, demanding
back their stolen days. They actually thought they’d had days
Contraction Expansion Rotation
Now all of this,
which might look complicated, isn’t, if you see the underlying
logic of it. There must necessarily be — to create — a
contraction. And what existed before the contraction is a state
which, after the contraction, you could call expansion. Couldn’t
you? Before you contract, you don’t call that the expanded
state, you might call it extended if you want, but expansion and
contraction are logically opposite ideas which presuppose each other.
Before contraction there is that which is expanded. Expanded is
prior, and is therefore called Jupiter God the Father. It then
contracts onto a point and that’s the devil, Saturn. And this
contraction or self will is the same thing as ideation, individual
value. And you have to balance the expansion of the Absolute and the
individuatedness of Saturn. That is, you have to be yourself and
remember there are other beings as well. See the logic and then
restore the whole thing to this diagram and it becomes simple. You’ve
got contraction, expansion and rotation ... those are quite simple,
Then, passive and
active. That’s passive pleasure, active desire. The Venus type
is a blonde lady with not much energy, with fingers pressed right
back and can touch the wrist with them, and she lives for pleasure.
If you find one of this pure type, be surprised.
The Mars type of man
has red hair, red skin and a tremendously zealous nature, and he
never waits, he goes bang for the target. You can find a lot of pure
types of those actually ... more than the others.
The moon aspect
simply means the body as a material structure, and the sun as a force
acting upon it.
quite simple really, isn’t it? Contraction/Expansion produce
considered internally may be viewed as passive [Venus].
And considered as
squirting energy out is active [Mars].
occupying space we call it a body [Moon],
Considered as its
original force, Jupiter, we call it a force, the sun.
Four Systems in three phases in the Body
So really those are
not very complicated are they? And we can reduce the twelve signs of
the Zodiac down to four systems in your body: your physical matter
represented by the bones; fluids in your body, your blood, etc.; the
air in your body; and the nervous energy in your body ... just four
In three phases: the
undifferentiated before it gets in your body; the differentiated and
unified when it gets in the body; and then the alternation between
the two, the mutableness of the third state. So that the top state is
like an absolute positive. Then the contraction of it which makes
unity is a negative, and the third state alternates, is neutral, it
goes Absolute ... particular.
Thinking about Things
You find if you try
to think, you have to think about a thing. But if you try to think
about a thing, you will have to leave it. Supposing I decide to think
about that pencil; thinking about it is saying what is in it. I say,
what is it ... well it’s graphite in the middle ...
what’s graphite? ... immediately I have to leave the
pencil to think about it. That’s why we say, about ... ab-out
... away-from it. It’s graphite in a ... because it’s
fairly easy to break. If we get a piece of wood, what’s
wood? Trees. A piece of I think that’s a piece of
Czechoslovakian pine or something. Now every time we try to think
about a thing, we have to leave it and think about something else.
And if we see the
logic of that we will never try to think about a thing without
thinking about other things. Because if we think, well, what is
wood?, well it’s trees, what are trees? They’re
kinds of beings that somehow are created by the action of the sun on
air, water and earth, aren’t they? Somehow a force enters into
the earth, and drags up various chemicals and combines them with
water and air, and that’s a tree. So already it becomes a
cosmic proposition to examine the pencil. And whatever it is, we
should always force ourselves back to the universal origin in order
to understand what it is.
If we think inside
our body, what is that Absolute cause of all things, force, what
is it in the body? It is will-power. So there’s a definite
relation between the will power of a man and the Jupiter or cosmic
creative force in the universe. But you cannot get at it as long as
the rota, the inertia, the habit of you is using up all your energy.
If you’re in the groove, if you’re a dead man, you can’t
get the energy out of the groove to use it for another purpose.
So there’s a
very simple test of whether you have got willpower or not: simply
take something that you habitually do ... and don’t. Take
something that you always do, and don’t do it for a week. If
you manage it you can say, yes, I have will power. If you forget
about it, you can say I haven’t got will power yet. But know
that if you get it, you have got the same essence with Jupiter ...
that is, with God the Father. That is, with the cosmic, original
[Khen] Could you
equate the six-foldness with the twelve-foldness that you spoke about
at the beginning? You drew the first six which we’ve spoken
about with the five sense organs, could you show how the twelve arise
Yes, well first
we’ll take this out — the Mercury — because it’s
the balance of all others. And then we consider the contractive side
is the part that produces matter, isn’t it? So this Saturn is
related specifically to the bones. This is why this thing the skull,
which is bony, we say it’s a Saturnine compaction. All the bone
parts are Saturnine. All the airy parts are Jupiter, the expansion,
which is your lungs expand, don’t they? The expansion tendency
which sucks in the air, is your Jupiter function. This Venus is
fluid, and so is the moon, but this is the passive aspect of it
[Moon] and this one is the spatial occupancy of it [Venus].
So both those two belong to the fluids in the body.
And Mars and the Sun
belong to the nervous energy in the body. You see? So it’s not
really a complicated thing when you see the internal relations of
them. They’ve been spread out in this way to enable you to
analyse a situation.
You see a man with a
certain kind of body, and his head may belong to a slightly different
category. You find a man with the coloration of a Latin, and the
features of a Slav. Well you would say straight away his ancestry is
mixed. We find some high yellow negresses that look exactly like
Jews, because once upon a time there was a medial type, the Shem
type, from which there appeared a Japhetic or intellectual, and a
Hamitic or sensual. If we breed back the terms together again, we
find that we are getting the middle that we started with. You find a
tremendously Jewish look about the high yellow negresses in America.
In fact you could easily mistake them for Jews, because they are
really the product of breeding back into the middle line from which
The thing is to see
the fundamental simple line and then all this stuff isn’t
complicated at all. There would be no bodies in the word if there
weren’t contraction. So Saturn is the very principle of
materiality. And then immediately we see why it says in the Bible,
the whole world is in the grip of the devil. That is, all matter
whatever is a product of covetousness, grab. God the Father is
expansion, and is therefore always at war with Saturn.
But Jesus Christ the
messiah is called the mediator. And he tempers the severity of god
who wants to break up the devil’s works by explaining why it is
necessary. So Christ mediates between God and the Devil. The sin in
man is apologised for, because it is the sin in man that keeps him
separate. Sin means separation. If all men lost all separation —
which would be the same as all sinfulness — the whole universe
would suddenly splurge, and there’d be nothing left. And
there’s no value in that absolute splurge, therefore a certain
amount of devilishness is necessary.
Sometimes you find
little boys running about and mothers will say, they’re
proper little devils those boys, and it means that they are
initiating something and separating something, and fiddling about and
interfering. It isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Actually the
only good is the whole ... the mercurial resolution of all these
[Khen] Can we
equate that with that six-fold division we had a few weeks ago? Where
we saw the universe first as a whole, and we divided it, didn’t
we into what we termed spirituality and materiality, so there’s
a dualism, the plurality. Could you put that on for everybody?
No I wouldn’t
do that, because that is a totally different frame of reference. It’s
a totally different frame of reference.
[Khen] There is
an equation ...
There is an
[Khen] But it
would only mix things up at the moment.
... it would at the
moment. The best thing to do is to familiarise yourself with the
internal logic of this thing, and to see that in this sign —
Mercury — we have a diagram of a man where he has pinned his
sexual energies. He has his whole feeling, and he remembers his dual
origin. Those horns up there symbolise that he’s rooted in
duality: the devil and God the Father. William Blake says, the
people on earth worship the Devil under the name of Jehovah. And they
don’t know it.
Why? Because Jehovah God is a creator. But a creator is a finiter.
And we don’t want finiting: we want freedom. Why do we want
freedom? ... because we haven’t got it. If we had it we’d
want to be finited. The essential thing is to see that the
Saturn/Jupiter opposition is no more than the split of a prime whole.
All/Each split, the triumph of each over all, and of all over each.
Where all triumphs
over each, it’s Jupiter.
Where an each
triumphs over all, it is Saturn.
So we say that
Hitler was the devil because he triumphed over the German people; he
subjugated them to his will. Now if they’d have subjugated him,
we might have called it the tyranny of a bureaucracy, or something
like that. But it’s very, very difficult to equate the many
with a particular devil, because the mass itself seems to be its own
justification, and its own law. The herd makes the rules for the
herd, and it always defines an individual who doesn’t conform
with herd law, as a devil.
Thus the Pharisees
said of Christ, he has a devil,
because he’s fiddling about with the Pharisaic Law. We must put
him on the cross where he belongs; the sign of the devil ... nail him
up. So they really want him pinned on the cross like Moses pinned the
serpent up on the cross in the desert. It simply means cross
malcontent or dissatisfied fellow, the fellow who doesn’t like
our rules, can be caught by us, we’ll nail him onto the thing
that he signifies; namely irritant form within the body politic.
The Sanscrit word, the only word in Sanscrit for Will is
Icheha. Ich, the English word, itch ...
You see, you get a
welfare state and some people think it’s an ill-fare state, and
start dodging. Now the government will always define the dodgers as
naughty men, but the dodgers will always define the government as a
wicked, tyrannical bureaucracy. And the question is, who wins? The
winner does the defining. And it’s very, very important to
realise that what we are dealing with is a whole ... and continuously
You see, there is a
man who has his awareness, consciously, that he’s rooted in
Saturn and Jupiter, in grab and let go ... it’s as simple as
that: grab, let go.
Supposing a man
grabs, and gets his penny. Sometimes you get a little boy’s got
a penny. It’s in his hand.
And you say, What
have you got in your hand?
He says, Penny.
Where are you
going with it?
But pennies are
He looks very
suspiciously at me. You take him to a shop and you say, give this
boy something for a penny.
And he looks at his
penny like that and he won’t let go of it.
And you say, But
it’s currency. It’s supposed to run about. You’ve
got to let go, otherwise it’s useless. [23:03]
Now the boy has to
learn that he can’t get the value of the penny without opening
his hand and letting somebody take the penny and giving him something
for it. It’s this thing ... grab ... and let go. And the
important thing is, what are you going to grab and what are you going
to let go? If you grab the wrong thing, you find you’ve let go
of the other thing. And it’s the ability consciously to grab
the right thing at the right time, and let go of the right thing to
let go of, which you would call the wrong thing to hold ... also at
the right time. And then you’ve resolved this difference.
Fallen and Unfallen Man
we call this the unfallen man; his horns are at the top. He’s
aware of the fundamental duality in man, that grab and let-go is his
origin. And he has in his feeling compassion for all beings, and he
knows that all beings are crucified on their physical bodies. So he
thinks in terms of a dialectical process: the identity of opposites.
He feels compassion for the whole thing, and he knows that he is
pinned on a physical body, and so is every other body. That’s
called the unfallen man. Now we’ll draw him in his fallen
state. Now, he’s pinned in his brain on ideas. He’s now
an intellectualist. He thinks that he can solve the universe in terms
of thinking, and the logical thinking cannot solve it, because
logical thinking says that contraction and expansion are opposites,
mutually exclusive, and nothing to do with each other.
putting-in and taking-out are opposite aren’t they?
beyond logically, dialectically, both processes are going on
simultaneously in the universe. Energy is pouring in and energy is
going out in the same moment. The Atlantic cable that takes a message
to America down its core is returning a current on the outer sides of
the cover, isn’t it? There must be circulation. Something is
going down there, something is coming back at the same time. Now we
call that paralogical thinking. And the man that thinks only
logically, we call him an intellectualist — remember I.S.T.
means he’s crucified — he thinks wholly, but now he’s
walking on two legs, you see. That is to say, he’s alternating
as he goes along. One of his legs is the thinking leg, and the other
leg is the feeling leg. And he never knows, by thinking, which leg to
put down first.
We talk about
getting up in the morning and putting your right leg down first. And
some people are not quite sure whether you should put the left leg
down first. Now in India where they have systematised all of this
they say, when you get up in the morning, put down on the floor
one of your legs. If you’re a Brahmin, put down your left leg
in public ... if you’re in secret, put the right leg down.
Now it means — the right leg means — Will, going
wilfully. Left leg means going with circumspection, or looking round
about, to see what’s cooking. So when you are going through
life, you have to look all the time, but if you’ve only got a
thinker, a logical thinker, you do not know whether it is time to be
wilful or just think. When you are dealing with a person, you can’t
think whether to be wilful or not at the moment with him, can
you? It’s just impossible. You’re almost always
invariably out of phase with him. You might try wilfulness and he may
hit back ... you might try thinking but he’s sucking a lollipop
at the time, he’s not in his intellectual centre, so he can’t
So this is the
fallen man who is an intellectualist. That’s like a diagram of
a scientist. The legs of him are embedded, if you like, in the
material world. And he doesn’t know quite what to do about that
because he’s a thinking man, and therefore he has to formulate
a mathematical analysis of the world based on statistical survey, and
he can never deal with an individual. He can only deal with large
numbers of things simultaneously. But the unfallen man is aware that
he’s rooted in grab-and-let-go, aware that the physical bodies
of all beings are pinned, and his feeling is of compassion.
So this fellow’s
feeling here, is a whole feeling split by this. His thought process
goes down there, and — this is likely too long — part of
it says it’s time to think, part of it says it’s time to
be wilful. But he can never have enough data by thinking. But on the
other hand if you remember this, you can deal with the situation much
better, because somebody’s absolutely adamant about something,
you know in principle that he’s very, very soft about precisely
that thing, otherwise he wouldn’t hammer it so hard. If he’s
a man who’s absolutely secure about a thing he doesn’t
need to hammer it.
Tolerance and Guilt
So this fellow —
the mercurial man — if he comes up against a very dogmatic
person, he knows mush is hiding under him. On the other hand if he
comes up against a man apparently mushy, he knows that if he pushes
that man and takes his mush off him, he’ll suddenly contract
into a stone and grab, and fight. So you find that apparently
tolerant people, when you start trying to find out the limit of their
tolerance, they’re quite clear that it’s so far and no
In a recent
description, a historical one, it said — in about the early
17th century — a group of intolerants fleeing from
intolerance, went to America to establish some more intolerance. Now
we know what they are talking about ... the Virginians ... they early
settlers there. They could not stand the situation in England,
because the government was squeezing them. But the government was
squeezing them because they wanted to squeeze other people, and they
wanted such people in America ... to form the basis of a government.
So they had to squeeze the people that wanted to squeeze, so that
they’d fly away like orange pips between the fingers, and then
rush off into another country and start doing the same thing with
whatever beings were there. And they always do it in the name of the
thing they are guilty of.
So in the
dialectical thinking, the paralogical thinking, whatever a person is,
remind yourself that he’s also the opposite at the same moment.
And state it to yourself. When you become fairly sensitive you can
state it to him, too. And he knows it, he might suddenly start
grinning and say, oh well, and let go of it. In this method
[empirical] you can’t do it. If you try to think, you’ll
be statistical, and you don’t know enough about that man with
that colour and that height to be able to predict his reaction.
But you do know that
all men are everything simultaneously. If whatever he says he is,
maybe he is, but he’s also a lot of other things as well ...
quite opposite to the things he just said. And the more that you can
see that everything springs out of grab-and-let-go, because it’s
grab and let go together produce rotation which establishes being.
It’s that establishment that gives this passive aspect and the
body aspect. And it’s the fact that the in-pouring of the
energy into it makes it squirt out like Mars, and gives a force
manifestation. So the more you can think about that, the more you
will find that it’s only an extension of that diagram of the
cross in the circle, which is tremendously easy to handle once you’ve
analysed it and then re-synthesised it together. See if you can
equate these with the different signs of the Zodiac, and later on if
you like for instance if you look in Genesis 49, you’ll find
the blessings of Jacob to his sons, and you will there find the
characteristics of each of the twelve groups ... the kind of people
they are and what kind of things happen to them. [32:00]
[ ... break in
recording ... ]
To remind yourself,
put your mnemonics down on bits of postcard or something, pin them
about the place where you know what they are, you know what they
represent. If you put them down symbolically like this, you know what
they are ... nobody else does.
Topographical Psychological Diagrams
audience] A good thing like decorating your room with ...
Yes, yes. A lot of
my friends have got a special room where the wall is donned with
symbols. And whichever way they look, they get a stimulus to do work.
I did a very big one of the geometric relation of all the people I
knew on the one wall. Quite a large wall, quite plain wall, it’s
about as high as that and possibly a bit more.
And everybody who
came in and looked at this thing was made ill. All it was, was a
geometric relationship of all the people that I knew. And they were
all furious about it, but the funny thing was that each person said I
like this one but I don’t like those. And they always picked
out the ones that represented themselves for liking. They could feel
this discordancy. The whole thing was built up with the compasses
from the relations between those people. And done in appropriate
colours, you see. So they had their natural colour sympathies there.
But they didn’t like it. None of them liked it. They only liked
a little bit of it. It’s just like real human beings. [33:53]
Did this become a big circular pattern on the wall?
It was made entirely
of circles but they weren’t concentric.
[C.B.] No I mean
were they like cells around a central one?
[C.B.] You would
be the central one?
No, no, I didn’t
put myself in it.
[C.B.] This was
to represent the relationship between you and these other people, I
Right. To represent
the relationship that those people had with each other.
[C.B.] Oh, I see.
But it would be hard to find the centre one then.
thought they knew what was central to them. And they all disagreed
about what was central. They all disagreed about their favourite
colours, they all disagreed about which circles should go with which
circles, which should touch each other, which should intersect, and
at what angle. That’s one of those topographical psychological
diagrams, only done completely with the compasses. Nothing freehand
[C.B.] Well, it
must have given a result something like a modern art example.
Well some people who
didn’t know what it was, thought it was modern art. They
thought it was a mural painting of modern man.
More on Elation Depression
[C.B.] You know,
earlier you said that in the case of a person who becomes very elated
and then very depressed, they shouldn’t allow themselves to
become too elated ... hold themselves down?
Well if they
succeed and hold themselves down on the mean line, doesn’t life
become drab then? There are no lights and shades?
Quite the opposite.
That’s what they’re always afraid of. It’s because
they’re afraid of that median line that they allow themselves
to become elated. You see, they’ve got the wrong conception of
that median line; that median line is tremendously vital. It’s
vibrating like this ... it’s not static. [36:08]
It tries to bounce
up, you pull it down. And the funny thing is, every time you pull it
down, you are pleased with your ability to do it, because you know
fundamentally the only thing that pleases a man is the ability to do
what he wills. Nothing else. So Nietzsche could say the only cause of
sorrow in a man is the realisation of personal impotence. And the
only cause of joy in a man is realisation that he can will. Nietzsche
said that for man joy is I will, for a woman, joy is, he
will. That’s a statement about active/passive, isn’t
[C.B.] So that
the blacks and whites are not lost?
be seen better.
Yes. Well that
certain negro was campaigning to remove the colour bar. He said if
you play a tune on the white notes with no black notes, or a tune on
the black notes with no white notes, it’s not as good as a tune
played on both. A gentleman called [Agri ?] ... “are grey”.
... of course.
That, they print it
in all their negro propaganda.
The Fruit in Eden
voice] Gene do you remember once saying a pomegranate was ... did you
say the fruit of the Garden of Eden? Do you remember?
Well, you know that
the name of the fruit is not given. When some people say it’s
an apple, some other people say it’s a tomato. You see the
whole thing about the tomato is it’s like a pomegranate, in
Europe, isn’t it? The strawberry is used in heraldry for the
same idea, only the strawberry’s got the seeds on the outside.
Simply means this idea of plurality.
If you take a cut
through an apple you get this shape, don’t you? ... with your
seeds in here. You get this threat of duality don’t you, in the
section of it? In the case of a strawberry, the seeds are on the
outside. The tomato’s are on the inside. And the pomegranate is
the oriental equivalent. The pomegranate is used in the orient, and
the fig is used for the same reason ... because it’s full of
seeds. The idea is plurality in unity.
don’t-separate. And when He has created Adam it means
whole, but it was found when he was whole he was like a circle. He
was no good to himself. So it says, God said it is not good for man
to be al-one ... all one. So he decided to take out from him the
volitional aspect and leave him with the intellectual aspect. Namely,
he took out a part, call it woman, making it dark because she’s
full of secrets, and then the serpent comes along ... that’s
the stimulus, stimulates the will, the will runs along and takes the
intellect with it. Therefore it says he went first to the woman.
Hitler did the same
thing in Germany. He talked to women first, knowing once he’d
got the women on his side, they go home to hubby and say, that
Hitler’s a fine fellow, get thee into the party ... see?
[C.B.] Well, the
words used in the Bible there, as you just quoted them just now,
might suggest that God made a mistake when he made man all one, and
then he made a correction when he made women.
Now this is what the
emergent evolutionists say. But mis-take means to take one thing for
another, that you didn’t intend, doesn’t it?
And it couldn’t
be that, because when Adam was made he was the first ... there wasn’t
another to take amiss for him.
[C.B.] No, I
meant, well, in error then.
Well error means
sounding defeated] I’ll have to find another word. [laughing]
Good Better Best
You’ll have to
find another idea, because you see first of all we have
undifferentiated energy, no creation whatever. Then we create.
There’s the zone of creation. Now, that’s good. God saw
everything that he had made on the first day, and it was good. That
didn’t stop him working on the second day, did it? There is
good, better and best, isn’t there? Now this is good, that’s
good, better is bet torah, put a law in it, bet torah means house of
the law. So we set this rotation band going inside. This cuts it into
the twelve zones that we mentioned before. That’s called
better. But best means pure being established. We put a cross
in it. B.S.T. Best Spirit Fixed. So that’s three stages:
just like in the substance.
Better, putting a
law in it.
Best, pinning it,
formally. That’s the state.
Now, on each
occasion it says, and God saw it was good. Now when this, he
works so far because the will only works as far as it wants to, and
it doesn’t work any farther. So at first it works like that,
and it has made itself a ball, that’s a fine ball. He thought,
hmmm I’ll start cutting it up now, like this. That’s
good division, you see. Well, I think I’ll get it all nicely
turning like this, get the whole thing fixed. It’s good,
each stage of it. So if a man is doing a painting, first he gets a
decent piece of paper, he says that’s good paper, just like the
earth. Then he does some primary geometrical structures for the
composition. That’s good fundamental composition. Then he puts
particular forms within it. Those are good. When those are all drawn
then he puts colour on top of it. They’re all good in their own
So he doesn’t
make a mistake. Not in error. First he makes a whole being and then
the whole being which is free spirit might undertake to create from
itself. But it didn’t. It wasn’t under constraint but
went to sleep like a spinning top. So He says, alright, it’s a
good piece of spinning top work, that ... we’ll have a bit of
something else as well, so he gave it another prod. He took a bit out
and thus established a polar relationship. [43:57]
[C.B.] Does this
mean that when God started to make the universe that He foresaw what
the result would be ... or He didn’t know, he was doing it to
see what the result would be?
he knows. Like this. You see, first of all, all motion ... supposing
I say this white paper represents spirit, but you can’t see the
way it’s behaving, it’s not static, it’s highly
dynamic and therefore it’s full of motions wiggling about like
this. We call it chaos don’t we? [44:32]
But that chaos is
full of all conceivable motions, isn’t it? If I stress one of
them — there’s one you see — I begin to abstract a
form. If I like to stress another one, like this, there’s
another form, a bit like Snozzle Durante, we put an eye in it, and
hair on. This is only a question of stressing what already exists.
For which reason it is said that God foresaw the world before it was
made, and then when he spins like this, he makes inside there and in
this rotating activity, again the overlapping of intersection of
forces inferred here makes the possibility of special stresses like
this, doesn’t it?
The moment you
stress what is, there appears an emergent, an individual, but nothing
new. There is no new thing under the sun,
but there are new ways of stressing things. So the God, the Absolute
Spirit, foresaw in himself everything that could possibly be created,
and then he stressed some of it ... and that was creation. And he
stresses internally, continuously, new stresses, and the appearance
of new stresses we call evolution. But nothing can be stressed that
doesn’t exist. [46:34]
This means that for
every individual man there is an eternal form. Actually, a man exists
as a baby forever, and as a child, as a youth, as a man, as grown
old, as dying, forever, in all his phases. When he has stressed them
all alternately, then he understands himself. Then he holds the whole
concept of himself as born, dead and in between, and that is his
being. Christ says every man goes into his own place and his works
Because death is only the removal of a certain kind of stress, and
the putting on of another kind of stress. This is why Paul says
really there is no death in the sense in which people imagine.
There’s no annihilation of whatever is. Whatever is, can never
cease to be. Whatever is not can never come to be. For all you can do
is stress it, which really means activate the will in that place a
phenomenon exists. No scientist today would deny it. A vase picks
itself up and is flung against a wall. Why? It’s only power,
stressed in a certain way. Maybe there’s a little girl there
and she’s not allowed to throw vases about, and she wishes she
could. And she goes into a sort of stupor with herself, and gathers
her energy together, takes it over to the vase, because fundamentally
she’s identical with it, and putting her frequency by sympathy
of feeling at the same number as the vase, she suddenly displaces it
... she’s altered the stress. Those things can happen only
because the universe is fundamentally force ... energy.
No Mistakes for God
anything that isn’t made of force. When force rotates it’s
matter, when it translates without rotating we call it a force, a
cause. So there aren’t any mistakes for god. We can make
mistakes as like putting your hand in this pocket for a pen and
bringing out one. It’s an Indian ink pen, I unscrew it, and
start writing and suddenly ink runs all over the paper. Why? ...
because it won’t write unless it’s full. If it gets half
full it starts spilling. It’s a fault of the pen design. The
manufacturers know about it. They can’t cure it and they warn
you about it: Keep it full. If you allow it to get half full,
it starts leaking. That’s because it’s got a special kind
of feed. It’s the only pen that will take Indian ink. But if I
forgot, and thought I had filled it when I hadn’t and decided
to write on my knee, I’d make a mess. Now that’s a
mistake. You take one thing amiss for another. [49:24]
When I used the word mistake, what I meant was, didn’t
god foresee when he was making man that it would be necessary for
there to be woman as well? Did he wait until afterwards and then see
that it was necessary?
Woman was in man, in
Adam, before she was taken out. Adam was made in the image of God,
male and female: that is, a hermaphroditic structure. He could have
operated on himself if he had willed ... he was a free being, but he
didn’t will to. This is why it is said in tradition that he had
a wife before Eve, whose name was Lilith. And because he had Lilith
he refused to work. Do you know what Lilith means? [50:07]
[C.B.] No. ...
oh, Lilith? Yes.
Lilith yes. Lilith
was his wife before Eve was taken out of him. Lilith was Eve inside
him, and it meant to say he was getting sensual pleasures inside
himself by playing with his own will and intellect instead of
expressing it. Lilith means to play with oneself.
Now there’s a
lot of people, a lot of people today that are Lilith ridden in that
sense. In magical parlance we’d say that they’ve got a
succubus. That is, somehow they managed to use that energy but they
never do anything. Actually, they are doing it inside. They’ve
got this peculiar faculty of sensually pleasing themselves and
tittilating their imagination with their own will ... and it’s
called Lilith. Very naughty girl, Lilith. And when god saw what Adam
was doing he say, Oh, I’ll take Lilith out, change the name
from to-play to develop. Ava or Eva — Eve — means to
develop. You see, when it is called woman, you see, and she was
called woman because she was taken out of man. Because this wo-man
means out-man. Pinch off him his sensual, volitional side, and leave
his intellect where it is. And then the Will will get into trouble
when the stimulus comes, and drag the intellect with it, and he’ll
have to do something. [51:44]
many a person that gets trapped by internal sensuality like that. You
can pick them out very, very easily. They’ve got dreamy eyes
and a certain amount of introversion, and they never make anything on
the outside. A lot of people think they are very quiet. But they’ve
got a universe inside and all of it fun and games, and they’re
got to do with Leeth, that, I suppose?
Hmm. Sleep, pleasant
dreams, it’s a piscatorial tendency. But it stops work, you
know ... stops development, because you can actually construct inside
yourself a wonderful, fantastic and delightful universe, without ever
getting related to any reality outside yourself.
[C.B.] So it’s
almost like the taking of drugs then?
Actually the people
that take opium are going into contact with Lilith by an artificial
method. You see, they can’t concentrate sufficiently like some
people born in certain positions can do naturally. Some fellows can
sit down and have an opium dream without the slightest effort,
without opium. As you know the name of opium in Latin is papa-vera,
and it means the father as a sexual symbol and the mother, playing
about in the imagination. And it’s that internal process.
naughty old boy Alistair Crowley recommended it as a pastime for
certain of his female followers. When they were not physically very
attractive, he taught them this method. You see, if they were
physically attractive he taught them another method. But for those
who wanted to learn, he taught them this method. That is, how to
imagine themselves as man-woman internally, and have a relationship
with themselves. The result was that they lost all external
initiative. And thereupon he took their chequebooks, put them in
their hands, put a pen in, and said, write: pay Alistair Crowley,
and they wrote and he went away, came back and gave them another
lesson. And they thought it was worth it. [54:18]
Some of the old
ladies that I know who were members of the organisation of, you know,
the ‘Dawn’ thing, and the Women of the Trees, both of
which he initiated in London — although there was a rival claim
in Germany for certain aspects of the Golden Dawn — some of
those women at sixty and seventy, who were still interested in sexual
activity to the point that they would be prepared to learn that
technique and pay for it ... and it was just encouraging fantasy. And
they were becoming more and more and more passive, more and more
subject to his will, because he taught them how to twist.
[C.B.] Easy way
to make money.
easy, but the question is, do you like the kind of job that it is?
One of the easiest
things in the world. All you’ve got to do is just hire yourself
to Maida Vale, put a sign on the door and do it ... the sport he
taught. You’ll get immediate buyers.
(Z)] To overcome that one, you need actually the correct stimulus,
stimulus, and application on concrete things. Take any concrete thing
like that and universalise it. Try and find out its source. No matter
what it is, use the external, because if you don’t, you’re
locked up in yourself in a fantastic world, and the end of it is that
you become depleted of energy. [55:55]
The best method is
to take concrete material things like that and deliberately trace
their source in the material world, right through to the particular
end, to the earth origins, their cosmic origins, back to force ...
and then start on another one. The Buddhists used simply a piece of
clay, and say, find anybody with a certain type of expression in
the eye, and put a piece of clay in his hand and say “meditate
on that ... it is clay”.
And he has to think
What am I supposed
to do about clay?
Well, what is clay?
What is earth? Well,
earth, according to the astronomical theories was once upon a time
liquid ... not solid. Before that it was a gas, before that it was
incandescent ... a body of light. So somehow that dark clay is only
light, made dark.
How has it become
made dark? By compaction. Too much grab. Too little grab, you’ve
got an ocean of light with nothing in it. Too much grab, you’ve
got darkness. Somewhere between in that vibration — the
Mercurial resolution — you have light/dark, chiaroscuro, the
great relation, the possibility of real value.
You get a picture on
white paper and paint it in white paint; it’s a good picture,
but you can’t see it. That’s what god used to do before
creation. He painted with light on light. And the devil said, well,
I’m painting black on black, just to be awkward. So Mercury
said, well I’ll paint it black on white and white on black,
and resolve it. So the Mercury man is a fellow that knows the
rooting of everything in this opposition, and utilises it.
[C.B.] That means
the Mercury man can change his view point from one side to the other.
...that’s what it really means isn’t it — changes
Yes. Oh, yes. You
see, there’s a very old Chinese saying which says: If you knew
the truth, the real truth, and you knew it only in one way, it
wouldn’t help you except in one condition, in one time and
place. So you’ve got to know the truth from every conceivable
angle. You’ve got to get elasticity, otherwise you’re
Really, a technical
expert cannot resolve the most elementary problem because he lacks
the external stimulus of apparatus that he’s used to. If you
give him a piece of cotton and sealing wax, if he were able to get
down off his high horse, he could arrange that thing in such a way to
get a similar effect. But he doesn’t remember that ... because
he’s too technically trained in one direction. Come off that
horse and get another horse, get all the horses there are and ride
[Z] Who said ...
if we did it properly once it’s sufficient but if we do it
umpteen times, it’s because we’ve not been doing it
properly ... we’re learning how to do it?
Well it isn’t
so much that. You can do it once properly, and immediately afterwards
you will discover you’re back in your ordinary physical
consciousness, because of the fact of the mass inertia of your
previous thought. You’ve done it quite correctly, but you
cannot maintain it unless you transmute the body. By special efforts,
you can get a flash, and you can see the whole truth. And then a few
seconds afterwards you can’t be quite sure that you’ve
seen it. But you know that you’ve seen it and somehow it’s
not a bright as it was. It’s simply the fact that the body has
got to be reconditioned and made fine enough to receive that light,
all the time instead of by special effort.
happens when it lasts a matter of days? Say this particular time of
the year which is building up to a period at Easter, when it becomes
just after illumination which might last quite a length of time.
Well there again the
external environment is conspiring to give it to you. It’s not
your world. You see, the environment is giving it to you. That’s
the tide that takes the flood that leads on to fortune. But the point
is, can you restate that condition when it’s not in style?
Easter is the ‘Yest’ time, the uprising time. It’s
easy to be optimistic in the spring. Everything is conspiring with
you. Can you be optimistic in the winter? [01:01:09]
[From a lady in
the audience] I’ll just say that didn’t Shakespeare talk
about the winter of discontent?
Yes. Now is the
winter of our discontent made glorious summer ... this is again
dialectical thinking. You take your bow and see broiled duck, this
Chinese gentleman, don’t you? The thing is, you can go too far.
Actually that bowl is broiled duck potentially, if you are a good
shot and there’s a duck about and it’s the season of
ducks. Otherwise you’re wasting your time with the bow, aren’t
So the point is to
get the instrument that you have, and look for the right time, and
work while it is light, like working on the concept of the
resurrection at Easter time, you see? Work while it is light
means work when nature is conspiring with you, because at
first the winter will come when you cannot work so optimistically,
because it’s miserable weather. But after a time you gain the
ability to work when it is dark, when there isn’t a man.
Because it says the night comes when no man can work.
fellow, the upside down man, can’t work except in the right
situation. But the man with the horns, the dialectical horns, can,
because he says, if winter comes can spring be far behind?
... because he understands the cycle of events. So when he sees a
snow landscape, he sees seeds underneath the snow, hiding and warmed,
protected by the snow. So he looks underneath the superficial
darkness to those potentials hidden. And he knows by the law of
cyclical activity, that because winter is here, and no thing can
persist, therefore there must be non-winter following. So Spring must
come, the martial force must shoot out.
A lot of energies
are poured into the earth in summer aren’t they? In autumn the
earth is full of energies, and then they hide in the seeds, don’t
they? The fruits have fallen off the trees, seeds are in the ground,
the snow covers them up. They’re underneath, they’re
waiting for the stimulus from outside that’s going to hit them
again when Mars, the ram sign comes in ... the energy comes from the
cosmos, the solar forces come banging into those seeds. The melting
snows swell the jackets, the energy goes inside, bursts, and a shoot
It’s the John
Barleycorn cycle which is another example of the messianic Winter
crucifixion, and resurrection in the Spring. The whole thing is a
cosmic cycle. The agricultural corn cycle is borrowed from the cosmic
cycle. Some anthropologists think it’s the other way round.
They think that man first made the corn cycle and then thought
cosmically about it. Cosmos existed before the corn cycle.
[Khen] What is
the best way to get back into that state. Having experienced it a
number of times ... particularly a period like Easter, and then to
find yourself I suppose in a state of fall again and not
Well the best thing
is, when you’re in it to watch like mad what kind of feeling
you’ve got, and observe it so cleanly that you can remember the
feeling, so that later when you’ve gone out of it you have a
memory that you had a feeling of a definite type. [01:04:53]
The World Soul
[Khen] I tell you
the effect that it had on me when I’d done it, and that is that
I know I can get back into it, but inertia says, ‘well, it’ll
do tomorrow’. I can remember it, and then if I make a big
effort to do it, I find that I’ve got to make an even greater
effort than the one I thought necessary. And it can be done, but at
that particular period it’s easier to do it. That’s the
way I’ve experienced it.
Well remember that
there is a force in the universe, that compression force, the
centripetal force, pressing onto the centre and trying to persuade
you to generate physically. And that is your physical mass inertia.
What it wants you to do is have a lot of physical babies.
another force, but it’s of a totally different frequency,
calling out those people who are ready to come out. But at this
period of macrocosmic history, the forces are still going in, because
the object of the world soul is to generate a plurality of free
beings so that they can have relations of a very high order. But you
can’t have a plurality of free beings without having a large
number of bodies to serve as vehicles for training. And those bodies
have got to be made. And free beings don’t like tying
Therefore there is a
structure of the universe called Maya, the grand illusion, which
makes everything in Spring look slightly different. You see ...
there’s a halo put round things. It’s a trick inside the
nervous system, you see. Thereupon people are tricked into generating
the physical bodies which will serve as vehicles of experience for
souls to become free.
got to be a very definite number of such bodies made. Over a cycle of
years somebody’s got to make them. If you see the light by
special effort, well then the forces that want you to make physical
bodies will try to pull you down again. And they’ll say, well
the light’s always there, why have it today? And they’ll
have wonderful explanations about why you shouldn’t bother to
go back into the light, because it is eternal. It’s always
expressed it in his autobiography, by saying a prayer, Oh Lord
deliver me from the concupiscence of the flesh ... but not today.
Now he writes those words in his autobiography. And he was a great
psychologist and Self-searcher, and it was a genuine payer. He was
fed up with that generation cycle. You know they’re saying
three ‘B’s of St. Augustine represent his life story —
three ‘B’s — born bothered and bishoped. You see?
It’s the same
as St. Francis. St. Francis became a great saint because first of all
he’d been a great sinner. If you do enough naughtiness, you
begin to become convinced that it’s not worth it, whereas the
people that never do it are never sure whether it is not worth it.
That’s the meaning of the prodigal son. But if you say that to
some people, they say, oh, I’m going to be a prodigal then,
if that’s so! But they’re using your words as an
excuse for weakness. They can’t do it. And then the first time
they get into trouble they come and they say to you, it’s
your fault, you told me to do so-and-so. [01:08:34]
I can give you an
actual concrete example of one evening in a group like this, I made a
general statement about the prodigal son, a quite general statement,
that prodigality was not a bad thing in itself, and that for many
people it accelerated their development because they could give
things up quicker than they would otherwise give it up. But this was
always a matter for an individual to solve. You see?
And about six months
later a fellow come to me and he said, do you know that you are
responsible for my girlfriend? She’s going to have a baby!
I said, why?
He said, because
of that stuff you said about the prodigal son. You see? And he
was quite annoyed about it ... and he was very sincere. He thought
he’d been led up the spout by encouraging prodigality. And I
said to him, most of the prodigals I know are very, very careful
to not get that kind of result. But he actually was very, very
annoyed with me for mentioning the prodigal.
accelerates something, certainly.
chuckling]A new being.
Well it actually
accelerated him wonderfully ... and his wife. It accelerated him into
marriage, a thing he would never have done otherwise.
what you would call an object lesson.
Oh yes. A very
objectionable lesson. But it did him good in the end, you know. I
mean the end up to now ... not the final end.
Will you excuse me, now?
Yes of course.
got to push off. Good night.
[Z] We were
talking about the benefit derived [....sundry farewells made...]
Christ taught us this thing you see, that we have to behave as though
we are receiving it or have got it, you see. Now this particular
force centre of things like you have, if you hadn’t actually
experienced that, it’s something you can’t visualise,
isn’t it? How can you actually use that particular method to
obtain ... to help obtain help to obtain anything?
Exercise — Stopping Thought
Well, first of all
you cannot see that unless you’ve managed to stop thinking for
a period. You see, the thing that stops people from getting at that
light, which is eternal and permanently there — we’re in
it actually, it’s another frequency — is fantasy and
ideation. That means to say, you’ve got all the formulations in
your mind. All formulations of feeling and idea, are the things that
block you. So that the precondition of seeing it, is first of all you
must eliminate from the mind, ideas. That’s why yoga is a
suppression of vrittis, of mental modifications.
Patanjali definition. It’s still the only valid definition
there is: Stop the mind working at lower levels and the top levels
will be seen, because they’re there.
Now the obstacle,
the chief obstacle to this, is falling asleep ... falling asleep. It
isn’t a question of stopping the mind thinking, and falling
asleep. You’ve got to stop the mind thinking, and remain awake.
The tendency is to fall asleep. In order to practice it, you take a
stream of thought — no matter what it is — and you
deliberately try to stop one thought getting away from you, and stop
the next associated thought coming in. And you’ve got a space
between the two. Try and increase the space. [01:12:20]
We used the example
of a horse and a cart. There’s a horse and cart there, and a
man comes, unharnesses the horse and takes the cart away. When the
cart has being taken away by the man, the horse runs away leaving a
space. Now you try to hold that space, just hold it blank. But you’re
terribly alert and you’ll feel ideas trying to get in ... don’t
let them. Keep that space. If something comes into that space, start
again. Put your horse and your cart back.
[Z] But the point
is I can to an extent achieve it with a picture form, but then
there’s the talk and the words going on.
ideation. Talking is also ideation.
tell you what has happened, I’ve actually got to the state of
unconsciousness, and come back out of it, and found out that that
talking — it’s only a guess — it seems to have
continually gone on all the time even though I wasn’t there.
Now whether it’s actually started again when ...
No, it’s going
on all the time.
[Z] You leave it
and you come back and it’s going on ...
goes on all the time, because everything that exists is eternal. What
you are doing is changing your phase. When you can’t hear it
you’ve gone out of its frequency range. That’s all. But
it’s still talking there.
Do you know, every
word you have ever heard in your life is sounding on its own all the
time? And every sentence which is a combination of words is also
sounding because all the words that constitute your vocabulary are
vibrating all the time.
[Z] As one.
Yes as one whole.
[Z] According to
the particular opening you make within yourself that’s what you
would see, actually ...?
Mmm. What you do is
stress a thing, and it’s your feeling that determines what you
will stress. [01:14:07]
Not a thing you
like, something you dislike. The thing you like you tend to move
towards; the thing you dislike, you tend to be afraid of ... and it
But talking is still
ideation, it’s still formal presentation.
[Z] We have to
take the sentence and widen the .... words at the same time.
It’s the kind of exercise that we start with ... you do it now,
you see. I will say to you a series of numbers and you mustn’t
say the last one that would logically follow. Mm? So I say twice
three are ...
hard to say whether you’ve done it or not. It’s ready to
jump in. I’m not actually ...
Did you manage to
keep it out?
[Z] No, I can’t
say that. There’s a tendency sometimes, I find it hard to say
whether I said it or not. Quite often I find myself stressing it in
the throat, you see.
Now that kind of
laryngeal reflex ...
[Z] But I don’t
know if it was there it the mind or not.
... it’s a
question of levels, you see. When we talk about prayer, there are
three levels of prayer:
audible prayer where you can hear the words coming out of your mouth.
where you can feel the reflex in your larynx.
And silent prayer,
which is still a form, but there’s no reflex here, and there’s
no sound out of your mouth, but you can hear the form of it in the
mind. But there’s no physical reflex, it’s a different
level; it’s a different frequency.
Then if you take the
meaning of that prayer and contract all the words together and retain
the significance, without serial expression, that’s the fourth
[Z] Oh yes, I
know what you mean, yes.
significance instead of serial expression.
[Z] So I say
happiness and just feel happiness, with no particular word.
you identify with the significance of the term.
Now see if you can
do this again. We will recite the alphabet. Don’t you hear the
next letter when I stop. A. B. C. D. E. ... did you manage to
suppress it? [01:16:35]
[Z] No, it came
up ... a pattern
You see, you should
be able to stop it so that you don’t know what’s coming
next. Otherwise it’s still inertia ... it’s still
happening without my intention when it came up ...
Oh, it’s quite
mechanical, it wasn’t your intent. Your intent could be the
opposite, but it would still come up unless you are tremendously
alert. Don’t let the final word come in this: Rule Britannia,
Britannia rules the ...
[Z] I said monkey
instead then. [laughing]
You said monkey ...
that’s a device, you see? But did you notice that the monkey
that you inserted was a jumping monkey, like the wave motion? What
you did is abstract the jumping from the wave and turn it into a
monkey to avoid the word wave. That’s still
mechanical association of ideas ... see?
Now this is an
exercise you can do on yourself, and you can do on each other as an
exercise. And really try. Prepare yourself, because if you get
prepared and get a pal to try you out, you can gain this ability to
chop it, and you just don’t know the alphabet any more.
The M.O. at
Strangeways Prison, Manchester, has a wife, and I was talking to him
one night, we were having super with him, and he said, my wife a
yoga, you know.
And I said, is
He said, yes,
she’s terribly good at it, she’s read all about it. She’s
very, very good at it.
So I said to her,
have you done that exercise of emptying your mind?
And she said, yes,
So I said, the
one about the horse and the cart where you let the horse run away
when the man takes the cart away, and there’s nothing there.
She said, what is
I said, see if
you can do it.
And he interrupted
and said, of course she can do it. She’s practised yoga.
I said, well, we’ll
see if she can. I said, now imagine a horse and cart and a man
comes and he unharnesses the horse, takes the cart away, and suddenly
the horse runs off. There’s a space there. Can you do that?
And she went, Oh,
she said, there’s a man behind the cart!
You see? It gave her
a terrific shock. It would have given him a shock too, if he’d
have seen this man wasn’t him. See? It was another man, a
threatening figure, one of the many convicts that she’d noticed
that he had to deal with. Because being a convict is not necessarily
being so witty that you’re positively horrible to look at, you
know. Some of them are quite good looking. And the threat of violence
is there. So he was behind the cart waiting until hubby had gone away
to MO see.
[Z] He was
actually in prison in the talk?
Mmm. If you do that
exercise with each other, you can go ahead very, very quickly. It’s
hard to work on your own. Get somebody to say something with a
natural, logical sequence, and you try and chop it so that you just
don’t know it. And don’t try and put a monkey there ...
that’s still mechanical association of ideas. [01:20:12]
[Z] I suppose
I’ve got to follow you all the way? Each letter?
[Z] But the point
I find this: you’re saying ...A.B.C.D. Now you’re going a
certain speed, where I can’t tell where I’m actually
presupposing or not, by the time you’ve done your next letter
you see ... I might be ... ’m not even prepared for it ...
Well you mustn’t
hear anything before the beginning of the exercise. There must be
nothing in your mind except the things that I said, and when I stop,
you must stop thinking.
[Z] That would be
a good thing to get up and over here ...
Oh, yes. The lower
and more forward your consciousness, the less you can do it, because
there’s an awful lot of associative mechanism down here on the
mental ideas. It works tremendously quickly.
from the audience (W)] You know in the ‘word association’
exercise ... can you start to get used to it and able to carry on for
[W] I seem to
Yes. A very god
exercise with words is this: you know every word is built of primary
letters and all the primary letters co-exist eternally as forms ...
so that every word in every language, is merely an out-built, an
expression, pressing out, of a fundamental geometry of the universe
which exists simultaneously. That means that all the words in all
languages are related together in a very definite manner. So when you
look at a word, see if you can see another word inside it, take it
out, and know that if it’s in it’s got a logical
relationship to that word.
Let’s take the
word word. Inside the word word is a word wor,
W.O.R. as in worship. You know, worship ... it has a very definite
relation, because you can’t worship without words. If you look
up this prime root — this W.R. root — it means a power,
differentiating, illuminating its parts. And it is also O.R.D. which
it the root of order, and you can’t make order without words.
There’s also O.R., which is gold, isn’t it?
Gold! Or ... means
gold. And gold is the same thing as will. Gold is the symbol of
willpower. So inside the word there is a principle of order, a
principle of worship, and a principle of will. And the will is hidden
in between. Will is hidden in the middle. That means that every word
you’ve got really conceals in it a will. That means it tells
you, if you analyse it, there’s something you can do.
Take a short word
like cat. What does it mean? What is a cat at? What is a
pussycat? The Greek word cat means fix. The pussycat is
so called because it sits in fixed attitudes, and when it moves it
suddenly takes the whole of its concentration from one place and puts
it on another ... and it fixes its attention. Have you noticed that?
It’s called cat because it fixes itself.
Now this fixing is
the same thing as cutting off, isn’t it? Take the vowel out and
the K.T. sound is the fundamental concept ... cut. The cat does that.
It forgets all about you when it sees something down there.
Some people think
that cats are very queer. The Egyptians thought they were sacred,
because a cat can be looking at you, and you give it milk and then
suddenly it goes ... [makes some kind of cat-like expression to
which there is laughter] ... it stares in mid air and people go
... [makes another expression] .. that cat has seen something.
It’s a frequency that human beings don’t see. It really
has! It’s got a totally different gamut of vibration — in
its awareness — to a human being.
You know that when
the big earthquakes occurred in South America a few years ago, two
days before it blew up, the animals migrated. They all left. And the
human beings were saying, why are all the animals running about,
the stupid things ... what are they being excited about? First
day, all the animals cleared off, and towards the second day end all
the birds flew. That’s funny isn’t it, the birds went
after the runners? You see? [01:25:09]
You see? They were
all saying, oh, aren’t animals funny. Suddenly there was
a big bang and the whole place was buried in a few hours. Now who
told the animals?
The fact is that the
forces in the earth that were ready to blow up were beating at very,
very high frequencies. And the animals could feel that terrible
proximity of an explosion. It was real. They didn’t see the
future. They saw the present condition of imminence; terrible
vibration in the earth and in the ether where all these
inter-magnetic forces in the earth that were crushing the strata
underneath. They could feel this emanating. They thought, I think
it’s time to go ... and they went.
[W] They just
They just went, that
reaction is the same thing as intelligence as far as the animals were
concerned. Providing they are in their natural habitat, its survival
value is perfect.
But human beings
upside down, thinking statistically said, can’t possibly
blow up, you know, because statistically it hasn’t blown up
before. Statistically, says, times plus times to one that it will
never happen again. And it hasn’t happened at all yet.
Statistics ignores that there’s always a first time.
There was a
magnificent film of the Mexican one; did you see it? They managed to
get on the spot with cameras, and a mountain was thrown up in a few
hours. A colossal amount ... three thousand feet, wasn’t it? It
just grew like this, and a village disappeared and everybody was
rushing off in all directions, and after it had been put up in a few
hours, the geologists said, we shall have to modify some of our
time scale about the formation of the earth’s crust. You
know, they have some wonderful ideas of how long it takes to raise a
mountain range, 3000 feet high. It takes a long time, about four
hours I think it threw itself up in its major mass. They were
surprised ... so they wrote it down in the book: Modification of
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