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Zodiac and Body.

Tan Y Garth tape 216

Yes well we don’t want to prematurely come to conclusions which might mean to hasten the formulation of solutions to problems. You know the tendency is to seek for some sort of instrument that will give you a quick solution of a problem, For instance, there is a friend of mine in Manchester is a psychiatrist who more and more and more has turned in to shock treatment because it is quicker. It gives a very, very quick solution of the problem. He is actually a Jungian psychologist and used to take a considerable amount of time over each patient. The more patients he gets the less time he has for each and the result is that he tends to be more and more economical in dealing with them. And the natural tendency of human beings is to want to be efficient and in the process of wanting to be efficient to come to a quick solution and find an instrument that will give you that quick solution. And the moment you think you have found it you have stopped looking for anything else and it can produce very, very superficial results. You can get results that way like you can with shock treatment, you can blow away a problem, physically. But it hasn’t solved the problem and the person has to be re-educated and later on will have to re-face the same problem, perhaps with inferior equipment. That is why I don’t want to take disease types for instance in relation to the Zodiac or other forces and over-simplify it.

We will start with this grief problem because it throws a bit of light on it. Supposing we take the letter G and we will draw it in imageas a solid. Now our form of the letter is like this isn’t it? Let’s shade it all in and use that to symbolise what the Greek gamma or Yorkshire gamma means when it is all gamma'd up.

Now the idea is that the sound ‘ga’ is made by closing the gullet. The same hard G in gullet right at the back of the throat you just stop it with the tongue ‘gu’. Now that is the idea o this letter ‘geh’ we shouldn’t really pronounce it ‘jee’. To get this idea we should pronounce it ‘go’, ‘gah’ ‘goh’ ‘geh’ not ‘je’. ‘Jeh’ is already an anglicising, a softening of it because to English people this problem is non longer so difficult, because living in a small island, their evolution has accelerated tremendously so that relational imageproblems are much easier for them than for many other peoples. So if we take this letter G as a hard ‘geh’, equivalent to the Greek gamma which ids written like that Y like our letter Y and frequently confused with it in manuscripts, itimage means the gross material object of out attention. So if we just draw a little circle, put the letter G in it like that, that is the form of it, you see. And if we draw it carelessly up to there bit it is really the whole circle cut in half and shaded to represent matter. That is then the gross material object.

Now this line across here, signifies that the object, so made has parts and it is these parts in it that makes grief a possibility, because grief simply means that the two halves have separated.

Now let us suppose that this represents a husband, and the husband has parts. That is to say, in the mind of his wife he is a bread winner, bottom half, and top half, kindly under-stander of her whimsies. You see two aspects of the ideal husband. Now if she discovers that this gross material object of her affection starts coming to bits so that his understanding drifts away and the gross bread-winning bits drifts away and there is a hiatus between, then she experiences grief. That is simply the psychological state that comes when something upon which you have leaned upon as your security, begins to disintegrate. That is a very important concept because it means where there is grief there has already been a mistake on the part of the grieving person. Identification with a finite material object and the leaning on of that object as a means of security as a means of happiness, so that if we take one person there , and here is another person and this person here thinks that this person here is essential to the welfare of that person. So that if we call this, we will call this A and that G for the gamma, if this person thinks that that person is essential, when it is not, because they are two separate beings, and then certain events come and disintegrate this being or take it away, tis person will experience grief, So it is really proof of idolatry to experience grief at all is evidence that the griever has been idolatrous in some measure.

I know this sounds a very, very hard thing to say but it is true. And, if you think about it very carefully you will find that on the occasions in your own life when you have come to grief, all you have experienced is the division of something you considered necessary for your life disintegrating.

Now let us come to consider just what that gammed thing is. We started off making a big circle, which is the Absolute, coming in to make a Universe. And then that same thing went in again to make inside the Universe a second form and then inside that to make the gross form in the middle. If you like you can make that the pupil of the eye and these striations are the iris of the eye. This is how you do any diagnosis, incidentally from first principles like this.

This the white ball here represents the causal universe. We will put a K in there for causal. That K means this boundary and it represents white, which is the equilibration of all colours and is the white of the ball of the eye. Ball is B(e) all, is that which contains the All and the striations n the iris represent all the colours that are mixed in the white, only now, separated out and displayed. And the black in the centre which really, you know, is a hole through which you photograph the world, is the pupil or learner. So we write pu-pil, which is the learner and that is the gammed up or incarnated consciousness. And black is the mixture of all the colours of the iris in static mixture, white is the mixture of all the colours in dynamic inter-play. If you get all the colours of the spectrum and put them on a piece of cardboard, on a wheel, and paint them separately round it in certain proportions and then rotate it you will see white. If you get the same colours and mix them together on a palette and paint it you will get black.

So black and white are the same but in the case of the black it is a static mixture and white, a dynamic interplay.

Now in the same way we can see, perceive that this gammed up centre, this gross material centre, has nothing in it other that that which was in the white ball and came through radiations inwards, the striations of the iris,, to be established. Tat if you destroy hat gross material body in the centre, you have not destroyed the striations which were the formal display of colours that were hidden in the pupil. And, if you destroy the iris you have not destroyed the ball and all the colours iris are in the white, in this dynamic, mixed manner.

So that, in effect, you can say that to grieve about the death of a gross body is already a misunderstanding of the fact that it came from the All by an internal process of radiation to be established and this is the universal, the white, and this is the particular, and when you disintegrate the particular all you have done is re-state the original universal condition of it.

So here we have a diagram of the three states of being, here.

Are we going early tonight?


Now we will do this diagram again because it is very important and we will make it to three different kinds of knowing.

So if we take this diverse material body and imagine a stimulus from outside hitting it, producing a reverberation in the gross physical body, we can call that a sense reaction to a stimulus and say that is the level of your consciousness and when you are awake, concentrating on the reactions of your physical organs to external stimuli.

There is another kind of stimulus that hits you on the level of would be the iris in the eye and this is cont on the ideas in the body as when you are talking. The words go through the ears to certain centres and impinge on groups of ideas, Now that is a stimulus like hitting you on the body with a stick but hitting you on the ear with a word which goes into a centre in the brain and rouses similar ideas. And you will notice the difference here. If you take our fist and hit somebody in the eye very hard, the eye will go black. If you hit somebody with the word it will go into the ear to a certain centre in the brain and there will produce a peculiar process of mixing of energies, which, for the time being, will blacken. That is you can get a back mental eye, that is, you don’t understand it on first presentation. An idea forcefully presented on first presentation simply blackens your soul eye and it will take time for your idea circulation, just like the circulation of the blood in an ordinary physical black eye, it will take time to circulate this mental blood, if you like the analogy to clear away the damage that has been caused by the newly introduced idea. So that would represent the idea level

But it can also be a stimulus on a level which is the level of the will because that V is also the Vol of volition So there is three ways you can be stimulated, one on your gross, physical body, by hitting you with a hammer; another by hitting you with an idea, usually through the ear, it can be done by geometrical symbols, through the eye and through written words; and this method, hitting on the will

The most obvious illustration of this is simply to insult a person, cast doubts upon their strength. Just say, “I think you have got a weak will.” But, immediately because that is the outer limit of your being, that band of the will, the reaction is they say, “Well I haven’t.” You are not defending an idea there, you are defending your will, your own self centre. Here you would defend your physical body, here you defend an idea, here you simply defend your being as a will.

Those three processes correspond, this on with the waking state of an individual, I’ll put individual there, IND. Individual because it is important because there is nothing more asleep than that waking state of the individual. Because if I only know a thing if it touched me like this then that is a very external mode of knowing. It is what we call generally the waking state. But the K in wake itself symbolises there is a plane of being and that is the vector hitting it, the stimulus. So that the waking state means you have been hit. This wa here simply means a force going and hitting you. So the waking state corresponds with a blow on your gross, physical organism. The dreaming state corresponds with the state when your ideas are hit and you have forgotten the physical body as you do when you go to sleep and begin to dream. You forget about your physical body in bed and you shift the accent of consciousness from the gross body into this zone and you are presented with ideas and they, removed from the ballast of the gross of the gross body can play themselves out in highly fantastic ways. And here is called the state of deep sleep and that deep sleep is the state in which the individual here can remember nothing of what has gone on. And yet, that deep sleep state is more important than the waking state because you know that when you are in a state of deep sleep and not dreaming, your body is being repaired from the damage you have done to it during the waking state.

So throw out the daytime when you are being hit on the gross body by stimulation , various damages are being done to your organism and if you remain in identification with your gross, material organism, the

damage will become so great that you will die. You can kill a person by simply not allowing that person to sleep They then cannot go into that state of deep sleep where the really deep repair is done. Experimentally it takes about five days to kill a dog by not allowing it to sleep whereas if you tried to starve it to death it will take weeks if you allowed it to sleep and this shows which is the more important, the sleep or the food.

Something goes on in deep sleep that the individual does not know about, which is an essential of life. Now, in the dreaming, there is an awful lot of activity going on and you can waste energy there so tremendously that that you can wake up that you haven’t managed to get into the deep sleep state, which is the state of the unity of your will. You can wake up, that is, come back to into the gross body identification more tired than you went to your so-called rest. So it is essential to learn how to get from the gross state into that state of a unified will which we call deep sleep.

Now, if we put those three together, we haven’t got a word in English for them, but we have in Sanscrit, the word is turiyah. Now that state turayah is called the fourth state, when is simply the unity which is lying behind these three states. Because you can see that if, one moment you are awake in the gross body, then you are dreaming, and then you are deeply asleep, there must be a sub-stratum linking these three together. That sub-stratum state is this turiyah and you can see it means the affirmation of the tur, the law which is really doing this alternatively, you see. There is your so-called night time, “I’m mending myself,” and, “I am dreaming, and I am waking up in the morning.” Identification with the gross body Then I start to dream again the next night, go into he deep sleep, come back into the idea world, identify with the gross body. Next day, dreamings deep sleep, gross body, and so on.

Now the whole being is this turiyah. Turiyah is itself, if experienced, the simultaneous presentation in consciousness of what you call your waking state, gross body stimulation and the dreaming about it, that is all associated idea plus the unity of the will which lies behind it and that is really the thing to aim at.

You know that when a person is undergoing psychoanalysis or something like that, they are usually driven back by free association, a verbal technique, and today partially with the aid of drugs, but that is only because of the deficiency of the practitioner, who very often cannot manipulate the techniques without the aid of the drug; and the object of that is to drive a person from the gross body identification into the dream belt, because psychology today does not recognize this pure will as subject to research. Depth psychology only goes up to this limit of the dream, doesn’t go into these. This is one of the evidences it is still in its infancy. It’s only a few years ago since Freud died and the identification of the gross material body as a hedonistic structure of sex pleasures there; the attempt to climb out, the Adler Function; the attempt to go beyond by Jung started in himself. He was blocked by his own analytical processes because you must realise that outside out side the band of ideas, all you have is pure will. That will is not a synthetic will made of ideas it is the original unity before you ever thought. It is eternal, completely indestructible because it has no parts, whereas your ideas are destructible because they are analysable. You can destroy an idea by analysing it.

There is your gross body, that is the most easily destroyed, just drop a few bricks on it. Then there is the body of ideas: that is also destroyed by logic. This one you cannot destroy to your way of thinking, you cannot get at it at all; that is the meaning of eternal damnation. If you do not catch the will of the person and get it to agree with you, you have wasted your time trying to get an agreement of ideas or bodily action because if the will of that person [is not with you] everything else is superficial.

Now you see that this diagram represents the gross body inside, then the subtle body, then the causal body The subtle body or dream form body is intermediate between the two. Now most people tend to think of it in reverse. There is your centre, that is corresponding with that, there is your dream world round it and there is your gross body round that. Both these diagrams are legitimate. Gross body on the outside dream body inside that and spiritual and causal self inside, so we can put them into correspondence like that

When Christ says the Kingdom of Heaven is within, he did not, logically say, it is not without. You go in because it is easier to get at it on the inside that the outside, because if you go out, you tend to get absorbed in physical stimulation. You don’t have to, you merely tend to because the general flow of nervous energy I your body in this period of evolution is in the five senses. So, if you allow yourself to look out at all, you find you find that you are looking at gross physical objects, but you [don’t.] You can look at people in another way. You can focus on the subtle world, your dream, and if you do it consciously you call it a day dream and you can then look at somebody and instead of seeing the gross body you will see the body of ideas of that person. And, if instead of doing that you pitch yourself at your volitional centre as pure, unformulated will and look at then in that manner, what you will see is either they like you or they don’t and the first thing is to try and convert the one to the other.

How would you then convert the will?

Well of course, you can convert the will you know. Christ said if your brother is about to take you to law you had better go with him and sort it out beforehand. Don’t get before the judges if you can avoid it. Don’t get into the idea world, do you see? Those are the judges, so he said, “Go with him in the way,” Go with him. If he wants you to go one mile, go two. The only way you can captivate a will is by going the way it wills you to go, not any other way. Some people think it is a licence job, you know going the way of somebody else’s will. Really, their will tires a lot quicker than most people would suspect, because they are, in general, extroverted and therefore subject to external stimulation. So that if you start going with them, their minds will vacillate and they will slip out of the will into the idea. When they are in the idea you can feed an idea at them which captivates the will. But, remember, you can’t catch a will unless you send it in the way it wants to go, but you can put up a signpost to say, “It went that way.” Do you see? The whole thing is a thing that Khen would show you was misdirection of attention, with a pack of cards or something. When you are fiddling with your right hand you hold the left hand out like that and display the ace of hearts or something.

I understand what to mean then that you may have ideas about a thing, f you will not in that direction you wouldn’t have understood that.

Well you know that is true because in general most people had roughly the same elementary education and yet they haven’t got out of the same will. You see, the established directions of individuals at birth is largely a result of their ancestral directions so already they are biased in the will towards one or other of the departments. So that if you can see which way a man’s will is going, and you can do if you balance yourself in your will, and don’t speculate, don’t get ideas about it, just feel it.

This is psycho…..

Yes, the psychometric technique of a spiritualist medium or any really fine feeling is of the same order. Just feel the motive. You can often see is yo stop in conversation, I am beating my head against the wall with this person, it doesn’t like the idea. Last night we had an example of a person who didn’t like the word responsibility, and it was a woman and she kicked mightily and scratched a bit and generally tore the place to pieces because she had been told that she had self-control. And she didn’t want it. She hadn’t had it for years and she didn’t want it now. And that is an example of a mind complete with ideas all about truth, beauty and goodness being pushed on one side the moment it is shown that understanding may defeat your will.

If you say that if I understand a certain project well then I cannot do so and so, and so and so and they are pleasurable, then obviously, if you want to do them, you will say, “Well I can’t understand them.” And it has to be realised this is as if you are talking with somebody you will see a certain expression in the eye, a certain set in the mouth. These are the gross material indications, if you identify with those and then feel the state of will, you will discover that you cannot put that idea over in that form to that person. What you can do is change the form of the expression. For instance, I know a communist friend of mine, if I utter the word ‘democracy’ he goes “Pah, pah,” you see, so I don’t use the word democracy to him. I talk about the intelligent overthrow of the fantasies of the Bourgeois, you see? Where upon he says, “Jolly Good,” Now he has been conditioned like Pavlov’s dog, into a series of reactions on hearing certain terms and he is prepared to discuss that and he is even prepared to admit that he has these conditioned reflexes, but he says that the ones that he has are true as they come out of Marx!

So that we have got a process here.

We will just have a look at this in its simplest form. We can take the Zodiac and put the sign of the Ram at the top; and a fish there and put a man’s toes there and we can put his knees on the sign of the Goat, you see; and we can put the generative organ there on the sign of Scorpio. And I hope this is a good figure when it is finished. I’m sure he is going to be very funny. We won’t be able to get the head round,… the neck there for Taurus and the shoulders for Gemini, and this chest there for Crab and the Leo on that Solar Plexus, and the Virgo part here for the intestinal department and the Libra here on this pelvic. Not bad, I’ve seen worse. Now if he is bent round the Zodiac there,

Now this is not entirely arbitrary. There is a certain relationship between these things so that if we place the primary energy on the head, head is hě ad, spirit eater, and up here there are certain centres that actually eat spirit in the same way that the lower parts of the body have to get their energy out of gross material food but only from gross material food. They can get energy from the air actually, if you get air radiated by sunlight it is better quality air than out of a damp, dark cave that has never seen the Sun, and you can always see this air in self feeding backward patterns into the nervous system by relation from the gross material chemistry here in the blood carried by meeting the oxygen supplies , a special kind of energy which goes up there and absorbs impressions through the sense organs and eats them in the same way, but at a finer level, a higher frequency. So that when Christ says, “I have food ye know yeknow what not of,” to his disciples, he is actually saying that he derives energy from up here and that if you get it from there you don’t need much of it down there unless you want to anchor your body and become the ground. If you get none at al you will disappear.

As a matter of fact, if you were to meditate on the Absolute truth and not eat gross material food at all, you would not cease to exist but your body would become highly attenuated, glorified it would be called in a religious sense and it would then become a body of light. It would just shimmer away and become invisible. Something like the transfiguration on the Mount. That can be done either temporarily or partially as in the halo or aura and so on, or permanently.

Last week we were talking about different diseases and now we are going to consider some of the relations here to show in what peculiar way these things can be related.

Well now I want to remind you, very carefully, we are inside the whole Universe, that is like a ball and then the iris and then the pupil. And this pupil itself is segmented into individuals of the same line of the human race as far as we are concerned, so that each individual will be a tiny little square. So inside this gross material centre of individuals the forces are already indebted to the forces of the Logos or ideal world and of the causal world. Now this itself is, as idea, the sidereal band, this band here, on our other diagram which we reversed would be the internal solar force of your will inside. I’ll just draw that again to make sure we don’t forget. There is the light of the will inside, there is the ideas round it and there is your gross body.

Now, you are indebted to the Universal will to begin with and you cannot break it. That is to say you are going in a certain direction determined by the Universal Will, whether you like it or not. If you find out in which direction it is going and decide you will go with it, you have a harmonious life, If you don’t like where it is leading you and you kick against the pricks as Paul says, you will find it is very, very hard, because you cannot defeat it because you are inferior. Inferior means you are inside it, doing inside; superior is that which is right on this band here. So the control is always with the superior and the inferior has to do, ultimately, what the Universal wants it to do.

So we have this Universal will conditioning the whole internal process. Then we have the whole of the chemical bands fro the stares which, radiating there inwards onto the \Earth, whether of the terrestrial globe or my body, makes no difference, it is the earth receiving these radiations, and then engrammed into the tissue of every individual are the reactions of every one of these linear ancestors, male and female, right back from the foundation of the Earth.

So there are a terrific number of highly complex forces at work. Ands this is why we should not try to find a very simple little tool that will give us the solution of any given problem. If we oversimplify the tool we will find that we cannot avoid what the Freudian psychologists found always, namely a regression of the problem. You know that Freud thought very often, in his early days, that he had solved the problem because the patient recovered. And a fortnight later the patient came back and said well I am not recovered any more. So then the patient is re-analysed and it is found that the first analysis was true only as far as it went and there is another thing underneath it. And it was pushed back relentlessly until he came to the theory of the Birth Trauma. “The shock of birth,” said he, “is the real trouble. But even that was not true because there is a shock pre-natally. There is actually a shock on the egg on the penetration of the sperm and that shock is felt. But that is only one of countless shocks that the germ plasm has suffered through the ancestors.

So you have to see that when you are pushing a thing out of the gross material world into the ideas, this is the analytical process and the psychologists, you will come to a band that in magical parlance the band is called “The Ring Pass Not,” because you cannot analyse beyond that, it is the pure unity of the will not subject to analysis. You cannot analyse the unific will. The psychologist, therefore, when he comes to this reason for a disorder, is always confronted with something that he cannot solve, namely, the will, which has no reason whatever for being ill, it has just willed it.

In the same situation it might have willed to behave itself. In some cases, it wills to misbehave itself and pay the price in the hope that it will eventually force everybody in the environment to obey it, so that when all the analysis is completed there still remains this ring of analysis, the subject-object zone here can ever tell us about the unity of the will. There is the unproblematic source of the problem. A problem is always something you can probe and that proves it is a probe, a pi rational structure. And, if it is subject to analysis and therefore a problem, it cannot be solved. To solve it is to wash it away, wash away all the form and come back to the elementary thing behind it the person has willed. Umproblematically they have just willed it like Shakespeare makes Caesar say “The cause is in my will.” This is why we have to capture the will of the person rather than the idea, although we may have to use the idea because the person has willed to believe in certain ideas.

So, with that to remind us to avoid oversimplification we will consider this gentleman bent round the wheel again and we will put the Zodiac back and we will see the relation between the pairs of opposites. This sign of the Ram here,, the Ram should be for high, the original source energy, and opposite to it is the sign for perception of your senses. Now these two are exactly opposite concepts. This one is absolute awareness. It feels that it knows all there is, it is omniscient, but it hasn’t separated any of it whatever. So that it knows nothing whatever, it knows too much too little. Therefore it says in the Old Testament of it, this sign, “A troop shall overcome him but he shall triumph in the end,” the mark of gad. The troop is the troop of stimuli which hit the organism and scatter its unity. It is essential to see this because we have two types of possible disorder. The disorder of thwarted omniscience, actually Hitler is born just on the turn of Ram and the Bull, Taurus, so was Shakespeare so you see you don’t have to take it necessarily one way. The energy here feels its omniscience and knows it can do anything although it may not, in particular, be able to do any precise thing whatever. Nevertheless, it feels that it can do it and it means it undertakes tremendous things for which it may have no equipment particularly and it feels it does not need particular equipment because it is omniscient. But, nevertheless, in the gross material world it is quite powerless unless it acquires the gross material techniques and equipment. So what it generally does is ally itself with a Göebels, Hess and Gö and so on as instrumented extensions of its own will. It cannot do it itself.

If we take the type of manic depressives in hospitals on mental hospitals, we find there in the state of high mania an ascending energy flying out, convinced that it can do anything and it tries frequently to the damage its own physical organism because it feels an essential truth that is omniscient and omnipotent. But that is only part of it. It is not only omniscient, it is as its own gross material centre, finite and subject to correction. It has many aspects.

Now the opposite thing is to see too many things and therefore to feel I am full of knowledges, or I can see what is going on all over the place and yet somehow to lack that energy which would drive in one direction if you would put it in an idea. So this is the sign of the pure schizophrenic, of the order say of Frederick Nietzsche, is a typical Libra case. His mind was so full of detailed knowledges, he is the father of modern psychology. Actually he is so aware of his content that is so rich that he literally, disintegrated. He hadn’t got the unifying power to keep all his knowledges together, he was a plural man.

So we have these peculiar kinds of these disunities that frequently base out sometimes all over the body in nervous rashes, little dots of irritation and sometimes they may come round the waist band, right round the back of the pelvis. Remember that the region of that Libra on that part of the body in this diagram we have been going round. So that kind of outbreak if the person is stressed there, a tendency to disintegrate and the nervousness to appear in a band across that part of the body. Now we have seen these are two opposite kinds of disorders possible, the disorder of omniscience, omnipotence, not wanting that it has a gross material body which is finite and limited, and the disorder of the very knowledgeable type who has knowledges, plural, without any kind of unity principle. Those are two of the cardinal signs.

Now we will take the sign of Capricorn, an Earth sign, and the sign of Cancer and see that they also have opposites. This one (Capricorn) is concerned with the gross material and the absorbance of food; this one (Cancer) is concerned with …… feeling, so that is a field of consciousness spreading itself out to become aware and this one is an attempt to drive onto things in order to absorb them. So in these two different kinds we find a tendency here to have disorders originating in having a go at things and trying to get the meaning of things, pulling out significances, just like the belly will pull out from the gross material food meaningless chemicals, so this person will try to pull out all the significance of the situation and when that person feels that the thing is not coming under his control, not being absorbed by him then he begins to dissipate himself and become diffuse like this sign of the crab does.

Now in this sign (Cancer|) the person is so diffuse in feeling that they have of the formal content of that (Libra), none of the feeling of omnipotence of that (Aries) but they are just displayed throughout the Universe as feeling awareness, waiting for something about to happen and when that being finds that nothing does then that person starts tending towards its opposite and hopes that there will appear something in the environment which will supply it with the object for it to feel. And then it will start drifting, waiting for the object to appear in its environment to give a centre on which it can rest. And, if it finds one which appears to give this stimulus it needed, it suddenly converts and, actually we say passes into the Scorpio position and attaches itself to the object and won’t let go. So we will find in here, in an apparently diffuse person, a tendency very, very often to produce stones inside the body. Remember those stone in any case, are only chemicals in suspension in your blood. They are driven into this sign where the person lacks security or lacks the objective stimulus that it feels it needs.

Now, those shortly are the cardinal signs and I’ve mentioned here that this one Cancer goes to Scorpio as its second stage when an object is presented to it and therefore we call Scorpio the sign of attachment. It is a water sign, belongs to the feeling but instead of being diffuse, it is concentrated on an object, very zealous and won’t let go.

Now if every one of these cardinal signs passes through three phases, first carding, then fixed, then mutable. Now if we look at a triangle of feeling, there, we have first, the undifferentiated feeling state. There is the essence of an object with all that means, vagueness of mind, unclarity of form, inability to define what is the matter with it. And then attachment to an object very clear idea this, of what it wants which provides the stimulus, and then, when it is discovered, that the particular thing to which it has attached itself can pay it all the time, it converts into the Pisces position and starts looking for other objects. In other words, it scatters its feeling so just like a questionable……. And they all shudder and dash of. So that all the emotions in the person when you suddenly whip out an object from its hand that it has, attack the object and destroy it or steal it away and suddenly the feeling which was concentrated in Scorpio , flies into bits. And, we may say in passing, that this is that Pisces, the sign of democracy, the bitty government. Remember we are in that sign now. That came in with Jesus Christ. The democrats or religionists and we are passing round this way towards Aquarius.

Now we will just go round here and see what happens in the Absorbency of the Goat. The absorption here particularises itself by accepting a burden which is a gross material situation. It like to have things imposed on it, makes a good manager. But then, statistically, the bi-carbonate of soda consumed by the managers, see?

The managers are the one who, because they are absorbing material situations, and because they cannot absorb them infinitely, have to absorb them one at a time. They take on positions of responsibility. Responsibility is conferred upon them from above and they accept it because they simply want the weight of responsibility. It gives them what they need, namely that they are existent in the gross material world and exist on their evidence for their own being is the firm will collapse if they are not in it. This is a very frequent one, actually of them It is amazing, when you see, perhaps, in the course of a year, perhaps a couple of hundred people born in the same, posing, using exactly the same sentence, “I dare not be ill, the firm will stop tomorrow.” And we can see in that relation if we put here, put the Hitler position there as an example, we have this terrific omniscient, omnipotence concept and the assumption of leadership we get of Germany, because if you are going to be omnipotent, because the only way you can prove it is by controlling the world. It is the logic of the situation.

So when he has done one object and absorbed that and got the weight of it on his shoulders, he is not satisfied, he has t go down there and work for more objects. And he then starts circulating about the place looking for more responsibilities and can actually, if he is a good strong specimen, carry the weight of a very, very large combine for say five quid a week and feel that he is not underpaid because he has ot the responsibility. And it is amazing how many of them do have this …….capacity of being happy with very inferior pay providing they can feel the Universe will stop if they become sick. That represents that process.

Now we will take the air position. The perception, unanalysed, of all forms simultaneously, again you can’t concentrate on them all at once, so what you do is you push them into the Aquarian position and record them in your memory, serially. You are storing up serial knowledge so you can get at it, record it and work on it separately as we are doing at the moment. We are doing a bit of memory activity, we are perceiving this diagram, remembering what we are talking about and also going over into Gemini to compare the opposing ideas. We have perceived, we have recorded in the memory and we are now comparing. You complete the cycle and we keep going round in this manner. We perceive the diagram. Again we remember that Aquarius signifies the memory and that the memory has all those forms of the universal now engrammed on an individual sensorium as the individual memory capable of being played out serially and then put into pairs and reasoned about Reasoning there simply meaning comparing whether they are like or unlike and we find here the tendency to the disintegration of the mind a tendency there to the absorption onside processes in the memory. And these people are very difficult to get at because you are talking to them and while you are doing so about their own problem, they are storing up in their mind what you are talking about with no intention of doing anything about it. So you can explain exactly what is going on and they will agree with you and put it in the memory.

We will see why in a moment, sometimes it is a profound dis-service to explain a thing clearly to a certain kind of person without first forcing them to do a bit of work about it, because if it gets into a certain centre in the brain and is understood before you have done something about it you can’t get the energy out of the understanding part into the doing part. We will see that in a moment

Now, if we go back to the sign of the Ram. This primary energy here cannot do anything particularly unless it devotes itself in the Leo position, which s the position of pioneers. You see, they don’t want to do anything anybody has done before. They want to find somewhere nobody has been. They want to go there and make a mark so the energy there, which omnipotent, omniscient, here is king of a finite situation. But in every finite situation you find that it can exhaust it very quickly, you see. Rhodes goes to Africa and discovers Africa is not the Universe, it is only some of it, and if he had lived longer he would have had to go somewhere else. It is very lucky that we die, really, other wise……….. and having exhausted one of those positions, he then goes out of here, shooting arrows at every target he can see and circulates this process.

So we have now seen, in very simple outlines how each one of these four parts of the organism goes through three phases, an undifferentiated phase here of nervous energy, there off intellectual energy, there of feeling energy and there of gross material energy, and that being diffuse in the cardinal points it cannot operate unless it commits itself unless it commits itself into a situation, either feeling by attaching itself to a gross material; object or gross material by becoming a manager or something or other, or of the nervous energy by becoming a pioneer or by storing up a nice memory and comparing the results. And for each activity there is a corresponding break down and the breakdown is generally related to what you would call the chief virtue of the person. In other words, like the motor car, it is the parts that move fastest most often wear out quickest. So the fellow is like to break down on his best point.

Now I’ll just mention it is sometimes bad thing to tell somebody something prematurely.

There is your brain, there is your spine. This is the mask which is put on top of the brain so that people will know who you are because without it, all brains look alike. We imagine I am going to cut this brain, this is not an anatomical diagram, it is a schematic diagram but show you the kind of thing am going to draw it as it was seen from here to here simultaneously. I am going to cut that off and call it the intellect. Now I am going to cut this middle part and cut it into two and leave this back part whole, put a hole in there for the spine to go in it. Now when your ear, which is on there is rattled with words, messages go in and they are carried to certain centres, and I am going to over simplify it in here and I am going to say that if you explain very, very clearly I logical terms throughout, one and one is two, two and two is four and so on, the message short circuits itself and goes into there. And, if the energy of that message gets into there, it starts circulating round and there arises in the consciousness of the person, “I know all about it,”

Now this is about the worst thing that can happen to a human being because it can be that he does know all about it, but knowing all about it is not the most important thing for a being. It is only one of them He must be able to feel the significance of what he knows in relation to other beings and the situation and he must also be able to execute that which is recommended by the knowledge he has. But if he understands it prematurely it will get stuck in this intellectual centre. We will change the names, call it rational centre because the letter R also means to disintegrate and it means that the person can become tremendously clever. Sometimes you get university professors who understand the history of philosophy and are completely paralysed morally them selves, because they have understood that it is entirely relative, you know. There is no absolutely relative and therefore they are incapable of acting on any basis at all, because all bases have been destroyed by premature understanding.

Now the other way is to use words only to do with wilfulness, pushing words, good, fundamental sex words, short words. They go flying into this centre at the back and they go straight down the spine and into the muscles. So, if you shout a very short syllable word at somebody, you are going to get an immediate response. If you shout a Latin word it comes forward in the brain; if you shout a Saxon word it comes to the back. You know the expression to talk out of the back of one’s head? Well it means not from your intellectual centres. So if you….

This is what you do to soldiers and so on, you say ahumph. Now, it isn’t informative but it does rattle certain fundamentals to do with the vowel oogh, which is related to the gullet, down below and it stimulates and it actually does, for that reason the whole course of the consciousness in the body with the result it goes straight from the ear, right down there into the marching boots.

Now the other way is to talk about things which have romantic associations, you know, and instead of saying something like, “that piece of green cheese in the sky,” you say, “Oh swear not by the inconstant moon.” All that stuff goes in here. Now you see, now you have, in here two zones, I like it, I don’t like it, and by playing on their I like it and I don’t like it and carefully suppressing the mathematics of it and keeping away from the urgeful parts of it, you could, if you wished keep somebody in very romantic suspense so they won’t elope with anybody but they will become tremendously thrilled with the idea of it.

It is tremendously important to think that you have a vocabulary of three parts. You have a vocabulary of rational ideas which are fundamentally geometrical and mathematical, and another vocabulary of emotional words and another of urge-ful words, most of them rude.

Now, if you can sort out your vocabulary into those three parts and the deliberately use the one you want, you are being a bit of a Churchill because the whole of propaganda speech is based consciously of particular words at particular times to strike into these centres to produce a reaction which the uninitiated cannot stop. And, what you have to do initially is to watch yourself and see how you react to particular words. You can do that in private by writing them down and testing your reactions, feeling your pulse and you can do it also in ordinary conversations when people are saying things to you. You can say to yourself, “Did that hit me in the mathematical department or in my romantic association or in my motor urges?” And, when you are getting more and more conscious of this you will discover that although this diagram is crude, it is not fundamentally inaccurate, that these things are located in the brain and that you can get a headache in the forepart of the brain from a different cause from in the hind part or from one in the ides of the head. If you go into a mental hospital you will frequently find the urgeful types

that are about to knock over a few nurses and tear the beds to bits, running their fingers up the back of their heads like that. That is because the centre of the brain that is activated, has discharges of energy going round it and these irritate. They actually produce scalp irritations and the hair won’t lie down. There is a field there and you will see the hairs sticking up. It will not be smoothed and there is a genuine it

Remember that word itch in English is the same as the itcha in Sanscrit which means ‘will’. Each one of those is a tiny little will trying to express itself. You will find that the urgeful ones are going like this while their eyes are rolling wildly and then go and give them something quickly, like a bit of chocolate, to get them off it, otherwise they will hit something and if you find them going like this. They are not going to do anything to you, you see,. They go over the middle, they are just having a tizz about Aunt Louise. And if you see one going like this you will know he is a locked up professor of sub-atomic physics or something. Most of them are at the back.

But this diagram, in relation to this one, remembering the three phases three phases through which each one of these four parts of your organism goes, you have the same thing in the brain; you have an undifferentiated process and then a split, where you are looking for an object and then the general scattering for many objects, and it is this scattering making many objects which is the cause of the idea world spattering out.

Now, I want to show you another very instructive thing in the human organism. If we take the toes, one, two, three, four, five, I won’t draw the other leg, it is too difficult. We have got two bones in the lower part of the leg, little knee caps, and then one bone, the femur, in the top part. And, if we take the hand we find exactly the same thing, five two one.

Now if we take the belly, one, two lungs, and head. Put our five pointed star in the head for our five senses, we begin to see this peculiar relation. We have this wholeness, this undifferentiated will, this prime urge so difficult to get at, then we have the liking and disliking of it; first analysis, then the five-fold sensorium of it and we have the same thing in the upper arm bone, The part nearest the body is the most unified, then the two bones, the ulna and the radius, these which are the bones of choice. YOU find that most people are making up their mind, they frequently go like this unconsciously, rotating the bones and then your five messages here and then the same with the leg; the one nearest the body unified, then the analysis and therefore there is a peculiar relation between the femur, the humerus and the lumbar region here. Between the split here and the split into the lungs are also nervously related and the head and the fingers and toes.

So we find that the very neurotic type with fingers modelled and building up the soft, slushy fingers but articulated fingers are the sign of an active mind and you will find that their toes are of the same order and remembering that head is the dominion of the Ram, which is a nervous energy sign you can expect to see signs on the fingertips there that belong in the forebrain. On the next joint they belong to the mid-brain and on the lower joint, before it meets the palm, in the hind brain, and the same with the toes.

You see, this human being is really a very simple trinity, repeating itself over and over again, whatever it throws out. And remember, it started life as an egg. What ever it throws out, budding itself an arm and bit further there are five little buds like this and a little chubby hand. You see, all those things are expressed from inside from the original, potentially five-fold being. The pancha karana of the yogis the five-fold created-ness of the Universe is evidence. You see, fro the point of view of Darwinian evolution, it just does not make sense that a human being has got those things and a beetle can be shown to have the same thing in a rudimentary manner. But we didn’t descend from beetles but the same forces are trying to manifest through them, and the farther away fro the body these arms grow and the fingers extend from the palm length, the more the nervous energy of the Absolute is pushing itself into the world and the greater its danger.. because the more you push into the world the more you extend your nerve lines of communication, the more susceptible of attack you are from the .So the very thing that gives you the greater sensitivity is also the thing that endangers you the most. You find that the most rudimentary types of simple belly boy you see…..

Imagine a boy who is born, sometimes they are, with a nice big belly and his head is all in one piece with it, like this, the chest is sunk in it there you see, and he has only got one bone in his leg, it’s a thigh bone, no toes and he has got a humerus and no lower arm. So? Such babies occasionally are born you see, and they look a bit like that. They are never unhealthy. Hey are never unhealthy because they are not pressing out into the world ad therefore they are in no danger. They are all of a piece, quite unified. They only want to do one thing and they are usually very efficient at it. As a matter of fact, Elizabeth here, working at Conover where these people are congenital shape, she fids that they have a very, very happy life. It is just that they make everybody else unhappy because they are so rudimentary that they have no problem, because a problem is a rational structure and they haven’t bothered to make one.

Now is that fairly clear I general outline? Are there any particular questions you want to ask? In common medical terms? Isn’t it talk about schizophrenic, a bit like mine at the moment.

Well you must realise that every material particle is surrounded by a field of energy. Now you know that your hair will stand up a little in waves. Nature has made to stand up your hair when you get scared and so on you look bigger and frighten the fellow that is frightening you. Well there is a definite field of energy that which, under certain conditions of much emotional excitement can produce an enlarging of the being of the subtle body which tries to draw out the physical body to the same dimensions and it causes all the parts that are loose, like hairs and so on, to radiate into the field, just like iron filings into a magnetic field. You know when you get a bit of brown paper and warm it and put it on your arm and pull it, put it over your hair, your hair will stand up, won’t it? Same thing will happen in certain conditions of emotional excitement. Sometimes , on these cases, hair will go very short, it won’t grow and it all goes together like little feathers and it looks very distressing to see them until you get used to the idea of what it signifies, looking most primitive and un-human. And the form of the face becomes progressively, grows less and less articulated. Sometimes it finishes up like a piece of soap. So, progressive destruction of the differentiation of ideas, that doesn’t mean hat the will of the person has been touched. It cannot be because it is a unity. It means the ideas structures have been found by that person not worth keeping they have been allowed to fall to bits.

Khen: I’ve seen a child where that occurred. Apparently he was born with it. It was the product of two very strange parents. Isn’t there a very fat margin,,,, A most beautiful child to look at and the hair was just in that feathery state it wouldn’t grow at all.

Eugene: One of the most distressing cases I have seen of a boy, he looked about five; he was eighteen. They did not know the cause but that boy believed he was a bird and his legs were very small and he lay just like this with his elbows. There is the elbow and his wrists on the bed like this. Just like that. He was tiny, little legs and his arms very long and as near as you could make hair, the little, short feathers right down the head, nearly to the seven cervical vertebrae in a lovely feathery pattern. And he had only two things, one was to eat, the other, excrete, which was to fly and he used to beat his arms for about four hours as if he were trying to take off until he was completely exhausted, and then feel asleep. Now, from the moment he was born, they had no idea why he showed this peculiar tendency to birdness and they didn’t know why. It’s completely beyond comprehension to see something come out of a human being which is not human in practice and yet so nearly so, and it was so profoundly distressed that it could not fly, it could not speak and it was quite ineducable. And it was trying to fly and it was manifestly distressed like a little bird is when it can’t fly.

Indian metaphysics would say, well it is an incarnation problem, there has something been done in the past; and genetic reason s might give something else. You might say it is some fantasy in the ancestors somewhere that has built up a bird form of terror sufficient to impose upon that germ-plasm and stops its development as a human. Because that is not an advance upon a human, it is a stage, a departmentalising, so that a human being contains all the forms of the whole world, mineral, vegetable animal in a certain balance and if it does not attain that balance it begins to veer towards one of the others.

So, like we had that three-fold diagram, we can talk about the vegetative system here, the animal system here and the rational system there. Vegetable, animal, man, and the bone structures themselves as mineral. There is our four-fold man and that is the Sphinx on the banks of the Nile and that is what he symbolises, the four-fold man.

So if for any reason here is a damage to any part of the body, it follows that the other parts will develop relatively excessively. So if at an early stage in the development of an embryo, some damage occurred in a certain part of the brain so that the rational centres were impaired, the emotional and urge centres would be fed with the energy (that) would otherwise have gone there, it would become apparently primitive, which is the same thing as being partially developed, until wholly balanced.


Eugene: Yes, well, of course their head was not full of intelligence, it was probably filled with fluid. And a damage has occurred somewhere from some cause and it is important to realise health means wholeness and this wholeness means a balance of all your parts. And in the human means a being that is supposed to balance all these potentials in itself. And if you stress one too much you are moving towards some other kind of life. Some people actually make he whole spinal column progressively into one bone. They even build it through a determination to be mobile.

I hope it isn’t irrelevant to mention this. I met with somebody who is backward and I had to ask them to write their name. She printed her name, big letters, big capitals and I was in a hurry so I said you needn’t write just put R. So she finished there.

Mmm so you had broken the chain associated motion. If you had seen it as a mechanically conditioned process in interrupting one you had interrupted all.

Khen: Well it is very common if you interrupt any kind of linear learned process that they can’t finish. I is the same with kiddies with rhymes that have been learned. If you stop them half way through and wait a bit and then say carry on, they can’t. They have to go back to the beginning. To do with the rhythm.

Yes but chiefly formal education

Oh yes, it is entirely a matter of energy going along and doing this. If you chop it, it stops dead. That’s why you can’t recite your alphabet backwards, although you know it. You have to relearn backwards haven’t you and even then you couldn’t start at the middle of it could you until you practice that?

You have set the pattern haven’t you?


And the pattern is looked at only in one direction.

That’s right

I know a very strange fellow who used to get free beer by reciting things backwards that nobody else could, but he trained himself to do so. But it is very hard work. It is essential to recognize the nature of that because, in fact, the rational processes of people in general are entirely one-directional, and therefore enslaved by the order in which you have learned them.. You should be able to play all your ideas in any order because if you can’t, you can be duped by somebody who can cut across your linear direction and annul them.

Let’s take a little computing account of that from the point of view of association. Let us say cat, dog, house, man and so on and we have learned it in this order. We know very well that there are other lines too. Namely we could go if we wanted to, cat, mouse, couldn’t we, mouse trap? Now if you go dog, cart couldn’t we and from cart to trap, which gives trap an imbalance? Trap now has two meanings. Now a lot of propaganda is based on this trick and many words have two meanings and you can lead somebody off a meaning they are trying to get to by mentioning another one. So, instead of going to the cat, mouse trap, business, you say, cat, mouse, dog, horse and thus divert the mind which happens quite accidentally in arguments between fellows under alcoholic stimulus and matters of politics and religion, when one fellow misunderstands deliberately another fellow’s argument and takes a word in another sense and leads it far away. So it can also be done deliberately when you take a word and deliberately misconstrue it, but so subtly that the fellow thinks you mean approximately what he means and allows you the use of the new term not knowing what you have got up your sleeve was he other meaning of the same term. That is the way arguments are unscrupulously bent from their original purpose.

A word chart of your own vocabulary of that order is very. Very useful because it sgows you that many of your words are quite unconsciously changed with meanings from different ideas, different groups and your thought process may be totally blocked blocked in one direction and you may be able to extricate yourself in another.

You take the word ‘astronomy’ as an example that is your department. To the Early Greeks astronomy did not mean the movement of the stars in the sky It meant the study of the law governing every kind of rotation of which the motions of the stars in the sky were an example. So that, when Plato and Socrates are talking about astronomia he is talking about the motions absolute, not the visible stars I the sky. And when Socrates goes so far as to say do not study astronomy by looking at the stars in the sky because they wobble, he is talking about absolute motion because ‘astura’ is in the Astarte of the ancients and the nome which is the law, astura nomia is this absolute spirit wheel, the Law. So it is a circle with the cross in it again as the type of all planetary or sidereal motions. So that, if you study your Pi law, rotation principle of the perfect circle and then distort it by stretching the Equator and decreasing its polar axis, you can begin to build the ellipsoid of the planets within it out of this distorted, simple wheel. And it is such things proved by astronomers that produce Bone’s Law. That law is derived from the nature of the circle and then an allowance made for the distortion.